make the rich pay the debt; problem solved.

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rich people are richer than they've ever been in history these days, while the working class has been seeing no raise in their pay, and not even so much as an increase in minimum wage. the gap between the mega-ultra rich and the middle class is broadening every day, and all the meanwhile, the country is in debt up to our ears. the solution is simple. simple.

make the rich pay the debt.

how can it get much simpler than that? the answer is clear cut, right in front of your fucking faces, but none of you will say it. we are poor because of the rich, we are in debt because of the rich. fuck the rich. make them pay the debt.

or else tell them to

thoughts?
 
Its moral relativism... a rich kid seeing a hobo sees human garbage, it doesn't occur to him that he could have been born into the same life, it was just meant to be this way - and if their positions were reversed the hobo would think the same. An ugly kid gets made fun of by guys and girls at school - people who would be the first to employ a mature retort that "Well, life isn't fair - get over it." The loser brings a gun to school and starts killing them, and as they hide, terrified, waiting for help that will come too late - the irony never occurs to them.
 
Apparently the TS is so much of an idiot he doesn't realize that even if you tax people who make over $1 million a year at 100%, that it wouldn't even make a dent in the $14.4 TRILLION dollar debt.

Then, since they are "rich" they would just say "fuck it" and pack up their shit and leave the country before the next tax bill came do. And since most companies in this country are run by and owed by "the rich", all those poor and middle class people would be out of a job.

But hey, that sounRAB great I bet to the brain dead Liberals and the TS, right?
 
Funny... I'm pretty sure you have indeed suggested disbanding the military and seizure of assets of the wealthy to pay US debt and redistribute the rest to native americans.

I have offered no arguments on those matters, though I did suggest that your ideas in particular are laughable and insane , yet you have so kindly assigned me some positions which you find convenient to attack.

So yeah... I'm pretty sure only one of us is beating on straw men, and it isn't me.
 
I said eventually disband the military, and only seize the assets of the top 1%, not just those who are wealthy (and only because they caused this crisis)

but please, continue with the strawmen
 
http://curiouscapitalist.blogs.time.com/2008/01/28/do_capital_gains_tax_cuts_incr/

The most money ever taken in by the treasury in capital gains taxes was in 2000, the height of the dot-com bubble, $119 billion (2000 dollars; $149 billion in 2010 money).

So let's quadruple the cap gains rate to 60%. Of course people would keep investing just the same, and that would raise an additional $447 billion provided we happen to have a raging bull market at the time. That might make up a yearly deficit if we could return to the frugality of the Bush years.

Then again, occasionally we will have a situation like in 2003 where the fedgov raises less than $60 billion from these taxes, so we'd only be making an extra $180 billion. That's not doing much for the national debt, I fear.





But hey, by all means go and tweak the cap gains rate by a few percent like Warren Buffett wants to; that should really help out with the trillion dollar deficit. It's not a spending problem, honest!
 
Nothing about this post is true.
The rich wouldn't pack up and leave, they wouldn't start shutting down their businesses that make them rich and give them such power.

And if you taxed them at 100% (which is hyperbole that no one would suggest) it would definitely make a dent in the debt.
 
The problem here is your argument that because spending is a problem....that it's the only problem. It's not, but you can keep repeating the Republicans "It's a spending problem!" memo talking points from your email all you want.

Yes, spending is a problem. Our tax code is also a problem because it's supposed to be progressive, and due to loopholes, credits, exemptions, and different rates for different income....it's failing to be as progressive as it should be.
 
The reason I maintain that the problem is mainly one of spending, is because it is mainly spending that has ballooned at an incredible rate. The federal budget has grown by 57% in ten years, in inflation-adjusted dollars.

We have one and a half federal governments plus an extra bureaucracy or two, compared to the United States of 2000. What sensible explanation is there for that kind of growth?

And you're going to make out like it's half spending, half some rich guys being grossly undertaxed? Have taxes been slashed by a third on... anyone? I really don't think so. (Actually I take that back, the bottom bracket was slashed by a third, from fifteen to ten percent, by Bush's "tax cuts for the rich")
 
Mao didn't seize everyone's assets (the party asked for donations) and he kept a very large military

so I'm advocating we do the exact opposite of what Mao did

but please, continue to sleep
 
im not saying anything about taxes, you retard. what's the debt? make the people with private jets pay it off. out of pocket. they have the money, they can do it. why should the rest of us suffer in debt while Johnson and Johnson kiRAB drink martinis on their yachts and fuck underaged women?
 
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