Mad Men.

The meaning of "You People" was discussed in a number of articles in the USA last year. They pointed out that by coincidence it was broadcast in the states on national coming out day

I did a quick google and found several articles all of which confirmed the meaning was as I had supposed - an sneering insult to gays and:

included a comment that it shows the direction of the character's up-to-this-point-unknown future political leanings
 
I've just got to add to this thread and say how gobsmacked I've been by the quality of this series!!!:cool: One of the finest American shows I've ever seen.:)
Blows over-rated shite such as Dexter and Dirty Sexy Money out of the water.
Anybody know if the Beeb have the rights to series 2? Here's hoping.:)
 
Did it? :eek: Can't remember why they did that.:confused:

Almost meant to say did anybody else notice Peggy was smoking last night? I'm sure I haven't seen her smoke before now (even though everybody else seems to). She does seem to have picked up some bad habits since she first started at Sterling Cooper... ;):D
 
Thanks for posting that Tiffany! what an insightful review.

When MM finally enRAB, I intend to buy the entire box set and watch it from start to finish with a different kind of appreciation, less focussed on the tension of what's happening and more on the nuances and subtleties.
 
Yes- and some Ella Fitzgerald, Sammy Davis Jr, Mel Torme... :)

it would be so cool to see Madmen music videos. I can just see shots of Don smoking mixed with classic Sinatra tracks.
 
Hmmmm, so far the show has "got up to" 1963. That's about the time when Concorde was starting to be designed, and Americans had started the Moon programme. Both of which we've since lost the ability (or maybe just the will) to do. They also had colour TV in the 'states - though it wasn't very good and it wasn't ubiquitous.
When you take home electronics out of the game, the things you have in a house these days aren't much different, except in style, from what was available then.
Also, don't forget that Don is what today would be a multi-millionaire, so what's in his house probably isn't representative of what yer average american had.
 
Good to see that others appreciate this series too. It's gorgeously produced, beautifully acted, and has an intense authenticity about it, which is simply breath-taking. All-round, this is superb TV, worthy of the awarRAB it has scooped Stateside.

I agree with another poster that Peggy might well be pregnant - the sudden weight gain is a giveaway. And of course a pregnancy would be terrible timing because she has the potential to advance her career.

The misogyny of the period is horrific! I read a Guardian interview with John Hamm (Draper) where the interviewer said, that for all his faults, you still root for him. I can't do this. Sure, he's super-cool, clever and fascinating, but I hate how he treats his wife, who is actually a unique and multi-faceted character in her own right, though he never sees it, and want him to get his comeuppance. Maybe Rachel Mencken can break his heart, and then his wife leave him too? That'd have me smiling.

For all that, the wit and banter between the guys is brilliantly done and perfectly written.

So glad a 2nd series is in the works.
 
Another series that got lost on Sky Arts was "In Treatment", which was excellent on all counts. Virtually no fanfare for it at all.

Last night's episode was troubling and unsettling on several counts. A lot of dark undertones this time. Peggy's rash behaviour after being stung by Don's telling off is bound to have repercussions for her.

Don was in danger of losing everything he had built up with his new opportunities when he had the destructive encounter with the hitchhikers. He was also on a very short and dangerous fuse, and cracks in his marriage are starting to show again.

Also, it seems new love interests are being filtered in - the school teacher for Don, and the government man Henry for Betty. I feel Betty will succumb to him on a complex emotional level, as aside from any physical attraction, he had a rather caringly attentive manner with her, almost paternal one could say. She seems to get little of that kind of emotional attention from Don and both appear distant with each other at times. But I'd be sad if their marriage falls apart; I want it to work for their characters.
 
I grew up in the USA, and I was eight years old in 1960. (Been here now 23 years)

In Mad Men, the attention to detail is amazing. Small things ring so true, even the body language is 1960s.

And the obsession with looking good to your neighbours, and the subtle discrimination, almost hidden...

One amazing detail, where the guy is getting a haircut in his office (the barber comes to his office!), is where the barber finishes up by clipping the guy's nose hairs! Wow! I haven't seen that in years!

The writing, acting and direction is terrific. Wardrobe, sets, etc - amazing.
 
Just another voice clamouring to praise last night's episode!

I got the feeling that poor Kitty has an idea what's going on. She's very bright, and something about her reactions last night had me feeling that she's watched Sal watch men before, but she clearly loves him very much and they are like best frienRAB. He doesn't want to hurt her anymore than she wants to voice her worries.

The picnic scene was brilliant, another fine example of old-style parenting - Betty gets bored and orders the daughter to go and play with the son, and when the little boy comes back so proud of having "done it" outside, no-one so much as acknowledges his presence, whereas today we'd be telling him what a clever boy he was, and heaping praise and attention on them - not to mention picking up after ourselves.

I've not enjoyed the Bobbie/Don affair, so I'm over the moon if that's an end to it - I agree that Jimmy surprised me with his astuteness (may not be a word), and his guts to stand up to a big fella like Don.

I hardly noticed the lack of Pete, which is surprising becuase I love Pete. He's such an android.

Fabulous fabulous series, and I have to regularly stop myself from finding ways to catch up with our American cousins!
 
This is the kind of show where once the series finishes, you have to go and watch every episode again to pick up on all the hidden nuances you missed first time round.
 
Absolutely stunning....

The Carousel

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=R2bLNkCqpuY

"Nostalagia in Greek literally means pain from an old wound"

The scene where Betty was in the psychiatrist's office was mesmerising

I feel like I've just watched classic tv that cannot be bettered .....will have to watch it again and again

Everything about this programme has been quality
 
I'm always surprised that they allow this on U.S. television considering their total ban on smoking everywhere else. But then Mad Men is on cable over there, so that could explain it.
 
Wasn't it just! And that remark that Cooper made about you never know when loyalty may be born. Makes you think......... Peter has rather shot his bolt there now. Cooper will back Don if he wants to sack him and he knows now that Don will face him down if he tries any dirty tricks. He has no choice but to play ball with Don for now and that's going to kill him- especially as Don will not be making it easy for him.

Our Pete just REALLY isn't clever enough is he! :D
 
You're welcome. :)

I always thought it would be Pete's baby because I'm under the impression that he was Peggy's first ;) and she doesn't sleep around like Joan. :P
 
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