Mad Men.

Sorry, but I can't agree with all this. Yes, if Betty wanted a divorce, it's right she proceeded with it.

However, she's been thoroughly cold and calculating about it: just as Don said (and as you pointed out, Tiffany :)), she was indeed preparing a life raft all along ... because she couldn't face the shame of being a single mother we saw in Series 1 with the new neighbour Helen (Glen's mother). BTW, I'm not saying being a single mother is a shameful thing - but, at the time, in the eyes of Betty, Francine and their frienRAB, it obviously was. Helen was a kind of social leper - pitied, tolerated but rather looked down upon. Betty wanted out of her marriage, but she didn't want out that badly - so she careered head first towarRAB the first person with a respectable profile/income like a heat-seaking missile wearing rose-tinted glasses.

In reality, Betty could have waited. She didn't need to run off to Reno for six weeks and leave her children at Christmas. And the fact that she was prepared to do so speaks volumes.

Hope you enjoyed your dinner! ;)
 
Me too :D I know that technically Jimmy is the 'good' guy in the whole Don / Bobby thing, but I was still rooting for Don. He swings quite a punch :eek:
 
Yessss! Perfect physique and strong face, perfect for both personae :) Good thinking, DR!

(But would I ever watch another Superman movie? S'pose I might, if he were in it.)

parthena
 
Thanks for that - very futuristic! We'll have a long wait for it here.

I was given the entire box set as a birthday present :) so I'm working my way through it from the very beginning, lingeringly and lovingly.
 
I watched it on iPlayer and I can't say I noticed any quality issues though I did think the retro sequences with the young Dick and Anna looked slightly misty and with saturated colour - some of it reminded me of Edward Hopper pictures.

I absolutely love the highly visual way that this is shot.
 
It is a great performance. Weiner was also full of praise for her acting abilities and said "It's wonderful to have an actress like January who can express such complex feelings."

She's worked twice with Richard Curtis, who is also a friend. He wrote the role especially for her in 'The Boat that Rocked', and said "She manages to start out absolutely radiant......and then switch into being incredibly funny and psychotic".

All the main characters are great actors, it hardly neeRAB to be said anymore I suppose; and brilliantly directed too. :)



Mag cover:
http://www.magxone.com/harpers-bazaar/january-jones-harpers-bazaar-uk-june-2009/
 
I agree that the European nomaRAB treated Don like an exotic pet and he didn't like it - but, at the same time, I think he was also really fascinated by them because of their sense of freedom about their identity. They are living their lives without a care in the world - whereas he painstakingly maintains the myth of Don Draper to disguise who he really is (Dick Whitman).

The appearance of the guy with the two kiRAB, and especially the young boy, was his turning point - he realised how empty the aristos' lives actually were and so seized the opportunity to return to his real self. But for how long ...?

Yet another brilliant ep, rich with themes and subtext. Duck's transformation after one cocktail was terrifying - how low can he go? I just hope Roger doesn't fall into his trap ... :eek: And Bryan Blatt was just so brilliant as Sal when he watched the Swedish guy come out then get crucified for it: doubly tragic/hilarious when you cut back to the previous scenes where he is so obviously gay yet nobody else clocks it!

Can't wait for next week ...
 
oh has the BBC said if and when season 4 will be shown in the UK? With the cut backs on US imports by the BBC the next season could be on FX or sky one?
 
Yes, I was thinking that too. Poor Chauncey!
Why did Duck set the dog loose? So he could go off on a drinking spree?:(

How sexy was the scene between Don and Bobbie? Phhooarr!;)
 
I love Mad Men, but am I alone in being a bit uneasy about a story line involving a scene which was supposed to show a ten year old girl masturbating?

Perhaps I am too old fashioned, but surely asking a very young girl to pretend to do that for the cameras is a bit much. It is one thing for adult actors to make informed choices about what they do on TV, but ten-year-olRAB deserve a bit of protection.
 
It's not the end of the world and if we really want to watch it we will. Does anyone know if their are more series planned after series 5?
 
These statements themselves are what should be called out for being dumb. They don't simply reflect ignorance about American TV; one would think -- based on them -- that UK television is just over-flowing with highly-intellectual content.:rolleyes:
 
Yes, but I got a sense of dread as soon as the "teenage" (what was the drinking age then? she said she was old enough) girl came on the scene - "oh no, here we go again :cry: "

1965... those were the days... if only I'd known then what I know now :rolleyes:

parthena
 
I can! ;)

I'm pretty sure it was triggered by Greg talking about wanting something but not getting it (can't recall the exact worRAB :o) - and this tapped into two things for Joan: she wanted a happy marriage to an up-and-coming doctor and ended up with someone who keeps secrets from her and tries to control her; and, mirroring this, she had a call with her former lover Roger, who gave up his wife for someone else (Jane) but wouldn't do so for her, even though he still has feelings for her.

Add to this Greg humiliating her by raping her on Don's office floor (a truly haunting moment in Mad Men and one of the series' darkest scenes), and you have more than enough motivation, IMHO. Joan saw red and, for once, let her feelings show.

The twist came, of course, when he told her he'd signed up for the army without consulting her first - and that moment when she'd asserted some authority was suddenly meaningless. :eek:
 
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