Mad Men.

I agree with you Lady Muck- it really does suck you in. It can be very funny too. There are so many little time bombs ticking away in the plot now that it's going to be very interesting when one or two go off.

I am wondering whether Peggy is pregnant.
 
As they say:

It was an expensive production, and all the money was on the screen.

Great work, a truly superior series in all respects.
 
The scene with the lawnmower was gory but hilarious. I espcially liked Roger Stirling's quip "Just when he'd got his foot in the door" and the Brits at the hostpital "He'll never golf again". Priceless lol
 
I forgot that that was him :eek: :eek:

I already planned to have him killed off - now, after what he did to Roger (who's a cad but he can't help it ;) ), I want him tortured first!

parthena
 
Just noticed this and that no one had answered it. The 'Rome' scenes, well certainly the hotel lobby and dining ones, were shot at the Los Angeles Opera House which is a rather spectacular very early 60s building with a huge gilded lobby hung with chandeliers and a forecourt around a fountain.

I don't think locations are the only thing Don and Betty are faking either!
 
Mr McLean's opinions rarely count for much. But at least in this case he does us a service by highlighting that the world is divided into two camps: those who need to be spoonfed plot and those who can appreciate subtext. Though I acknowledge that those of us who fall into the latter camp are in a minority, which is why so much of TV drama has to be dumbed down for the rest.
 
Been working away through Mad Men over the Xmas hols - just finished S2 and about to start on S3.

It took me a few episodes to get into it as not that much "happens", but now I'm amazed about how good it is. Not only is it a wonderfully written and produced character piece, but it's an amzing window into the social and political changes which were happening in the 60s.

As a child of the 70s, it's hard to imagine that the world was actually like that (and remember, the UK would be even further behind) only 10 years before I was born.
 
Ouch. That would have been painful if she said that.



Forgive me for editing your posts but I wanted to respond to them both.

I know a lot of women who came of age in the 70s who became very traditional homemakers dedicated to their children and dedicated to their husbanRAB. Many of them are very clever and talented and could have been successful in what ever career they chose to persue. But they ended up living a life mostly like their mothers' lives, down to becoming primary school teachers like their mothers were so they could work child friendly hours. Three of them ended up going through very difficult divorces, which was hard on them because they then had became the main provider and caretaker of their children. It was particularly hard for two of my frienRAB as they are religious-- one is Catholic, and one Orthodox Jewish- and they knew they were expected to keep the family together.

I grew up in a conservative Jewish community in Miami. In the early 60s Jewish women of Rachel's generation were expected to stay with their husbanRAB. But this began to change. Starting in the late 60s onwarRAB several couples my parents knew split up. Many of my frienRAB at school had divorced parents and they lived with their mothers.

I think Don will find Betty more attractive after they're divorced, and she goes back to being someone beautiful but unattainable. She's been a trophy wife to him, someone to parade around at meetings with clients. Deep down he found it unbelivable that someone like her could love him, the real him, and this is why he felt he couldn't risk telling her the truth about his past. I find it hard to understand why Betty didn't wonder why he had no family or any frienRAB from before joining Sterling Cooper. Perhaps she liked the fact that he was hanRABome and clearly he was going places. He gave her a lovely house and a Cadillac. She isn't asking Henry any questions now about his family either or how they're going to live with her children. Maybe she doesn't want reality to burst her fantasies. She wants Henry to be like her father, he will take care of her and idolize her while she goes on being a little girl who doesn't have to worry about anything and doesn't have to do anything but be pretty. I hope by the end of the next series she continues to build on the strength she found to confront Don. I hope that Don appreciates what he has lost and reaches out to her as a person, not just as a pretty face. Perhaps she will grow tired of playing the princess and reach out to Don as the father of her children and as someone she cares about.

Rachel Mencken wasn't related to the divorced woman who moved into Don and Betty's neighbourhood in Series 1. That series did have some scenes of Rachel talking to her sister on the telephone.

Servalan, thank you, I'm glad that you liked my post :)
 
The script sounded like he had a long term (or at least one previous encounter) with the prostitute, and it was interesting what he wanted from her.
I also think Henry's mother has the measure of Betty, down to a tee.
p.s. why did they have Tobacco Road (1965) as the outro music - has the show skipped forward that much?
 
I have just watched the final episode.

What an amazing climax to this excellent series.

This really has been one of the best series in years to come out. Excellently acted, its got the "feel" of the sixties and what amazing story lines.

I really hope we won't have too long to be able to watch it here in the UK.

The beeb should show it again on BBC 1 .... not hide it away on BBC 2

I think Pete's current problem with Peggy is that he really does have deep feelings for her and he knows that potentially, if they take their relationship to the next level, it could break his marriage. Pete I think is one of the interesting characters .... very deep.
 
Tonight's BBC HD episode was the best television I've seen for a very long time, the writers are sure having a lot of fun with this even if it is a ratings killer.
 
The original Don Draper was 'Don's' commanding officer in Korea (I think it was meant to be Korea anyway).

The explosion in the camp, killed the real Don Draper and left our 'Don' wounded.

Before the medical guys showed up our 'Don' switched his dog tags with the real Don Draper.

I think thats right anyway :)
 
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