We replaced the 412's with the new CVO shocks and it made all the difference. It did raise the rear of the bike back to the original height in the back but with the seat change and one inch lower front springs, the wife is still comfortable on the bike. The 412's are a good shock, even in the 11.5 inch version, for a average size person but you just plain lose too much travel with that short of shock for riding two up or hauling a lot of extra gear.