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Let's talk about BT
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Summer Rain
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KNow what you mean about comments on own site, I do not consider noting things said by people who do not even bother to at least have a look at the iste first and will tell them they have no real knowledge about some thing they have not viewed for themselves.
To me trolling is covered by the above making remarks about things they have not checked out for them selves. Other form of trolling is usally by banned members of sites that want to make the site they are banned from look bad and to be fair it is more than likely happen when the ban is justified, i.e they have not followed sites rules.
I would say that he's right myself. Of the millions(?) using bit torrent, only a small percentage of them are aware that there is a community that feeds that media mill. Most people just want files with as little effort as possible, and the monster swarms make it easier to follow the rules.
duh.. retards like ya make FST 'out Fucking STanding'.. :frusty:
refrain from posting if ya have no idea what you are on about..
Tranny.. I have got to agree wid DeadCell..this is one EPIC thread.. imma post me answers asap!
some agnostic person
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steal w/o getting caught :whistling
Harmony ~beat it~ trolls
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The difference in this thread, as opposed to one's started by those named and others, is that the intent here is on debate, exploration and invitation to anyone wanting a good convo - see where it goes so to speak - rather than some veiled and cynical means to poke fun, flame, or pursue an agenda.
It's been an interesting read so far. Thanks to the op for opening it up
marcellusthevampire
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Thanks for all the input folks, I do love a good discussion
I think that's a very good observation. Especially when talking about the newer discoverers of the community side of bit torrent, and the likelihood that they are younger, still looking for their real "self". Voices carry far in this type of communication, and to find your own voice in the midst can really help hone your ability to socialize in real life. I have to say though, that it's an insightful person that sees that end in the things they do and say at trackers and forums.
The worth is in the reward of kudos when you help someone who needs it, or being treated according to what you give, not what you look like. Cumulative respect is a great ego boost, but it's easy to overvalue that respect when you get it too quickly, resulting in e-peen syndrome.
I think that's a very good observation. Especially when talking about the newer discoverers of the community side of bit torrent, and the likelihood that they are younger, still looking for their real "self". Voices carry far in this type of communication, and to find your own voice in the midst can really help hone your ability to socialize in real life. I have to say though, that it's an insightful person that sees that end in the things they do and say at trackers and forums.
The worth is in the reward of kudos when you help someone who needs it, or being treated according to what you give, not what you look like. Cumulative respect is a great ego boost, but it's easy to overvalue that respect when you get it too quickly, resulting in e-peen syndrome.
chief calm down
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Haven't been around much but can't miss the opportunity to post in a thread thats actually on topic for the most part 
Why do you use bit torrent, and why to the degree that you use it?
I use it to steal files :happy:. I don't want to pay 30-40 bucks for just a season of a TV show I might not like in the first place. My opinions on games tend to be drastically different from review sites such as IGN and as such I almost never know whether I'm really going to like a game (IE I hated Oblivion but loved Prototype, both of which seemed to get quite contrasting reviews).
And if a game is done well enough, I always end up buying it to play the multiplayer to the full extent that it's available. My single player attention span is mediocre at best, but I love MP as I'm pretty competetive and a major sore loser. So basically I use BT for games and TV shows, and not really too much else as I don't really listen to music very much. I have DLed a couple apps like WinRAR so I don't have to click that goddamn popup every time :whistling.
What do you feel is the ideal tracker for you, and are you a member of a site that fills those requirements?
I think it's a site that's easy to seed or has a good bonus system to make up for that. What's the point of downloading files if you have to constantly worry about whether it will kill your ratio? Takes the fun out of it :dabs:. And yes, I feel like I'm a member of a couple sites that fufill that.
Do you feel you are on enough trackers, and what do you think is too many trackers?
I really feel like I am on enough trackers right now. I use to join the new trackers on blogs to check them out and see what's new, but once you've seen a couple of them you've seen them all. New 0day sites that really don't bring anything interesting to the table aren't needed at all, and I've learned to be rather skeptical of new trackers. I have what I need already so why join others? I'm set. I think too many trackers is too the point where you log on to the site for a second every day from your bookmarks just to avoid pruning. If thats all your doing, you probably already have another tracker that fills that niche and don't need another one.
What do you see the politics of BT entailing, and does it affect your actions in this field?
I really despise of BT politics and I think I've expressed my opinions of it in quite a few threads here. People get wrapped up in this world of "leetness" and awsomeness from owning/being on a secret tracker, and people from this forum constantly throw punches about past mistakes. We also get threads like "zomg pedros spending donation money!!!111" and random scene notices "warning" tracker owners to stop leeching their files and "hacking" personal files from people like the ST admin just to show they can. We're just here to share and discuss files, not find how who has a bigger epenis :ermm:.
Do you think there is an ethos necessary when interacting, and if so, what does it consist of? By this I mean what do you think the "morals" of BT are, if you think there should be.
I think the only real ethos needed is not randomly attacking members to the point where its degenerating, or attacking their "l33tness". Random, unrelated insults are unnecessary. If you have a valid on topic point about another person and can express it well, so be it. That's whats great about this forum, no one will ban you for having a negative opinion of almost ANYTHING. But it gets to a point when short, offtopic remarks about other members that really annoy me.
On another note, as I kinda think I saw a while back Idoleyes raised a good point in another thread. We should'nt use the word "steal" when talking about sites stealing other sites releases and stuff. It is kind of hypocritical.
Good thread by the way, got me thinking.
Edit: I just noticed, I tend to use a lot of smilies in my posts o.0
Why do you use bit torrent, and why to the degree that you use it?
I use it to steal files :happy:. I don't want to pay 30-40 bucks for just a season of a TV show I might not like in the first place. My opinions on games tend to be drastically different from review sites such as IGN and as such I almost never know whether I'm really going to like a game (IE I hated Oblivion but loved Prototype, both of which seemed to get quite contrasting reviews).
And if a game is done well enough, I always end up buying it to play the multiplayer to the full extent that it's available. My single player attention span is mediocre at best, but I love MP as I'm pretty competetive and a major sore loser. So basically I use BT for games and TV shows, and not really too much else as I don't really listen to music very much. I have DLed a couple apps like WinRAR so I don't have to click that goddamn popup every time :whistling.
What do you feel is the ideal tracker for you, and are you a member of a site that fills those requirements?
I think it's a site that's easy to seed or has a good bonus system to make up for that. What's the point of downloading files if you have to constantly worry about whether it will kill your ratio? Takes the fun out of it :dabs:. And yes, I feel like I'm a member of a couple sites that fufill that
.Do you feel you are on enough trackers, and what do you think is too many trackers?
I really feel like I am on enough trackers right now. I use to join the new trackers on blogs to check them out and see what's new, but once you've seen a couple of them you've seen them all. New 0day sites that really don't bring anything interesting to the table aren't needed at all, and I've learned to be rather skeptical of new trackers. I have what I need already so why join others? I'm set. I think too many trackers is too the point where you log on to the site for a second every day from your bookmarks just to avoid pruning. If thats all your doing, you probably already have another tracker that fills that niche and don't need another one.
What do you see the politics of BT entailing, and does it affect your actions in this field?
I really despise of BT politics and I think I've expressed my opinions of it in quite a few threads here. People get wrapped up in this world of "leetness" and awsomeness from owning/being on a secret tracker, and people from this forum constantly throw punches about past mistakes. We also get threads like "zomg pedros spending donation money!!!111" and random scene notices "warning" tracker owners to stop leeching their files and "hacking" personal files from people like the ST admin just to show they can. We're just here to share and discuss files, not find how who has a bigger epenis :ermm:.
Do you think there is an ethos necessary when interacting, and if so, what does it consist of? By this I mean what do you think the "morals" of BT are, if you think there should be.
I think the only real ethos needed is not randomly attacking members to the point where its degenerating, or attacking their "l33tness". Random, unrelated insults are unnecessary. If you have a valid on topic point about another person and can express it well, so be it. That's whats great about this forum, no one will ban you for having a negative opinion of almost ANYTHING. But it gets to a point when short, offtopic remarks about other members that really annoy me.
On another note, as I kinda think I saw a while back Idoleyes raised a good point in another thread. We should'nt use the word "steal" when talking about sites stealing other sites releases and stuff. It is kind of hypocritical.
Good thread by the way, got me thinking
.Edit: I just noticed, I tend to use a lot of smilies in my posts o.0
parkfieldnr16
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HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA never make when i see u..... i see u.... fst is filesharing.....no pictureforum....Are we all having fun yet?
I <3 EDWARD CULLEN
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A student by definition has a desire to learn. If someone does not wish to learn, they are no student. I would love to hear some ideas on how to teach those "average" users though. You can't force someone to read the rules let alone any primer on the commonly accepted "rules" while ignoring the fact that there is no commonly accepted "rules". Most folks that use bit torrent get their exposure from sites like Mininova, Isohunt, TPB and Demonoid at first, so things like ratios and seedtime requirements are foreign to most of them. It's not till they get sick of fakes and infections that they start to seek out more trustworthy sources of media. Then they have to relearn how to torrent, if they care to change their habits.
Use bitorrent regularly and down load films, tv shows, music and other things that I think of interest from time to time. I also go on some sites just for the community and chat and very rarely download from them, these tend to be lasser known trackers with sign ups open most the time as I find them more suited to me.
I really dont think one site is totally ideal as I like chatting/interacting with different people that are now friends that are not all on the same site.
I am on probabale to many trackers but the majority of those fall into the lesser known/smaller tracker section and mostly used to chat.
Well my views on BT and its politics might upset a few people but here goes BT to means sharing and that means knowledge and helping people not just the files, I also disagree with sites that have rules stating you cannot upload there files else whereat the end of the day they may pay for axx and servers but that is paid for in most part by donations, some sites are reported to actually make a profit, and the people who upload else where are possible donating as a thank you. I can honestly say I have no problems if some uploads stuff on there site if they have got it from GTi.
The other side of politics in BT is how people behave in places such as here I think there are too many people that think an e-penis is more important than there real lives. People come here to promote their sites and a lot of them get bashed by people who have not even had the good manners to even look at the sites, in fact some one actually said in the other thread that smaller 0day sites should all close and I am betting he has not visited many of the smaller sites where 95% + of there uploads are scene releases. I am on several of those called sites and admit I have no real need to torrent scene stuff but really enjoy the communities on them and the fact the staff are generally very helpful (there of course exceptsions to this).
People always make that distinction and therein lies a lot of the problems.There is only one life this is just another aspect of it .
Act accordingly.
Bt wise I could live without everything and not feel the least deprived - 'pecially the politics.
chicana_lulu
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Is not it a bit presumptuous ? I personally always feel "Newbs" because I always find something new to learn.
robertson249
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I would love that myself, especially some questions. As I said in my original post, I'm not just looking for a list of answers to the questions I asked, but anyones real thoughts on what we do as well. I don't believe it's presumptuous to assume a level of experience greater than the average bear, as those that have given well thought out answers have imo demonstrated that they at least pay attention to some of the less obvious factors that make this world go round.
Ok maybe I fumbled up the words a little and lost you in translation(though i did put crime in quotes).What I meant to say was that piracy isn't as much of an illegality as to the point where we need to check our own self decency before we engage in a dialogue about ethos as regard the BT community as a whole.
If you are disagreeing then its you trying to equate speeding to bank robbery since in as far as you are concerned a crime is a crime.See what I mean?
Lizzy Babe
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I use bittorent to download free stuff, obviously. I also feel more organized having everything on my computer.
My ideal tracker would have a lot of seeders/leechers, all the content I need, great speeds, and members with torrent experience. Maybe if you took ScT and added the content and members of 3-4 of my other sites, then you would have the perfect tracker.
I am on more than enough trackers, I don't even know how I ended up with so many. I remember about 3 years ago I was only on torrent damage downloading my ass off, I was so happy. But over the years you get offered sites that promise something different, then when you join them you realize you won't use any of the content at all.
I don't get involved in politics (e-drama), I just chill.
First of all torrenting is stealing, whether you sugar coat it or not, and therefore you can't really say there are morals in BT. There's being smart, and being stupid.
barbeque sauce
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Points for succinctness :happy:
duckater said:
Doesn't that carry over the entire online world though? It's all in the translation to this focal point instead of whatever other hobby or interest that community is centered around. Or is it really different in BT compared to say, the online MMA community which has alot of shared members through different discussion boards. Or a videogame modding community and all the things that would come from that. Call it a sign of the times I guess.
It could be any thing really, but that drive for status is pretty universal I think. I guess with the fact that there is a commodity involved, namely all that shit we steal w/o getting caught, it gets a heightened sense of passion from those involved.