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[email protected]de says...
And the rest of us have to shiver in the dark because of your irrational
fear?
[email protected]de says...
And the rest of us have to shiver in the dark because of your irrational
fear?
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Japan: "No cause for alarm"
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In article , nunyabidnits@eternal-
september.invalid says...
So educate me as to how it is that your brilliant "encase it in
concrete" idea never occurred to anybody who is looking for a way to
deal with radioactive waste. Do you think that nuclear engineers and
anti-nuclear activists between them are all so stupid that that idea has
never occurred to them? Do you think that they have never looked at it?
Do you think that if it actually would sequester radioactive material
sufficiently well to satisfy people as fearful as yourself but better
educated that technique would not already be in use?
What makes you think that it's harmless? You might want to read up on
the "encasement in concrete", which is currently leaking radioactive
material into the groundwater and which is in danger of collapse.
Google "Chernobyl sarcophagus".
Compared to the earthquake and tsunami, pretty much.
Reality. The earthquake and tsunami have killed thousands of people
that we know of and possibly tens of thousands depending on what happens
with those as yet unaccounted for. How many has the reactor killed?
Yes, there is much hysteria in the press, but there is always hysteria
in the press.
Read what? I don't see you advocating any safer reactor designs. I
just see you jumping up and down and calling for pointless "solutions"
to nonexistent problems.
You're the one calling for change. It's up to you to make the case for
it. If you can't, prepare to be mocked.
None of that indicates any kind of instability.
If you do not wish to converse with me then do not converse with me.
september.invalid says...
So educate me as to how it is that your brilliant "encase it in
concrete" idea never occurred to anybody who is looking for a way to
deal with radioactive waste. Do you think that nuclear engineers and
anti-nuclear activists between them are all so stupid that that idea has
never occurred to them? Do you think that they have never looked at it?
Do you think that if it actually would sequester radioactive material
sufficiently well to satisfy people as fearful as yourself but better
educated that technique would not already be in use?
What makes you think that it's harmless? You might want to read up on
the "encasement in concrete", which is currently leaking radioactive
material into the groundwater and which is in danger of collapse.
Google "Chernobyl sarcophagus".
Compared to the earthquake and tsunami, pretty much.
Reality. The earthquake and tsunami have killed thousands of people
that we know of and possibly tens of thousands depending on what happens
with those as yet unaccounted for. How many has the reactor killed?
Yes, there is much hysteria in the press, but there is always hysteria
in the press.
Read what? I don't see you advocating any safer reactor designs. I
just see you jumping up and down and calling for pointless "solutions"
to nonexistent problems.
You're the one calling for change. It's up to you to make the case for
it. If you can't, prepare to be mocked.
None of that indicates any kind of instability.
If you do not wish to converse with me then do not converse with me.
"J. Clarke" wrote:
Better than personally glowing in the dark. There also other systems of
generating energy that are safer. I am for population reduction therefore
less CO2. If nuclear is so safe I propose that you build the plants in the
downtown cities rather than the boondocks.
Mr. Clark, So tell me do you work for or on behalf of the nuclear industry?
--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
Better than personally glowing in the dark. There also other systems of
generating energy that are safer. I am for population reduction therefore
less CO2. If nuclear is so safe I propose that you build the plants in the
downtown cities rather than the boondocks.
Mr. Clark, So tell me do you work for or on behalf of the nuclear industry?
--
Enjoy Life... Nad R (Garden in zone 5a Michigan)
Ali McAllister
New member
In article , nunyabidnits@eternal-
september.invalid says...
Define "the maximum possible natural disaster threat". Chicxulub was a
"natural disaster". Would you require that a reactor be able to survive
that? If not then what would you require that it survive?
So let's see, after spending many year building a reactor, during which
time "the very latest and safest methods humanly possible" changed, you
would then forbid its operation? Is that what you are saying?
september.invalid says...
Define "the maximum possible natural disaster threat". Chicxulub was a
"natural disaster". Would you require that a reactor be able to survive
that? If not then what would you require that it survive?
So let's see, after spending many year building a reactor, during which
time "the very latest and safest methods humanly possible" changed, you
would then forbid its operation? Is that what you are saying?
AngelofSin
New member
In article , nunyabidnits@eternal-
september.invalid says...
Nope. Her psychiatrist diagnosed her Asperger's. You're acting like
her. May be you have Asperger's, in which case your behavior is at
least understandable, or maybe you're just a twit.
Well, now I'm leaning heavily toward twit.
And you still haven't denied it.
You want to call the Emperor and get me a special dispensation to work
in Japan?
If you meant Chernobyl you should have said Chernobyl. Fine, according
to you since it's "encased in concrete" everything is peachy-keen, but
according to you the surrounding area is not "habitable or workable".
Now, you are correct that there is an area around Chernobyl which is not
safe for long term habitation, however you have not presented one iota
of evidence that the radiation levels in Japan are anything like those
in the vicinity of Chernobyl.
What's the matter? Can't take criticism?
september.invalid says...
Nope. Her psychiatrist diagnosed her Asperger's. You're acting like
her. May be you have Asperger's, in which case your behavior is at
least understandable, or maybe you're just a twit.
Well, now I'm leaning heavily toward twit.
And you still haven't denied it.
You want to call the Emperor and get me a special dispensation to work
in Japan?
If you meant Chernobyl you should have said Chernobyl. Fine, according
to you since it's "encased in concrete" everything is peachy-keen, but
according to you the surrounding area is not "habitable or workable".
Now, you are correct that there is an area around Chernobyl which is not
safe for long term habitation, however you have not presented one iota
of evidence that the radiation levels in Japan are anything like those
in the vicinity of Chernobyl.
What's the matter? Can't take criticism?
sf wrote:
Coal plants release more radiation than nuclear plants. It's in the
ash and in the steam and C02. The ash waste from coal plants also
remains toxic forever. Forever is longer than the halflife of any
radioactive neuclide.
What to do with nuclear waste is a political issue not a technical
issue. Ask the French. They reprocess out the transuranics then
vitrify the small amount of short lived (short as in centuries not
millennia) waste and put it in granite vaults that are very deep used
mines. Do that reprocessing without concentrating the fissionables and
you never make any bomb material.
Fukushima is worse than TMI, not as bad as Chernobyl. It's a mess. It
was an old style boiling water reactor. At this point I want all of the
bioling water reactors aged out and replaced with CanDu dynamically
stable reactors. Which are better at burning the reprocessed fuel rod
material as well.
Coal plants release more radiation than nuclear plants. It's in the
ash and in the steam and C02. The ash waste from coal plants also
remains toxic forever. Forever is longer than the halflife of any
radioactive neuclide.
What to do with nuclear waste is a political issue not a technical
issue. Ask the French. They reprocess out the transuranics then
vitrify the small amount of short lived (short as in centuries not
millennia) waste and put it in granite vaults that are very deep used
mines. Do that reprocessing without concentrating the fissionables and
you never make any bomb material.
Fukushima is worse than TMI, not as bad as Chernobyl. It's a mess. It
was an old style boiling water reactor. At this point I want all of the
bioling water reactors aged out and replaced with CanDu dynamically
stable reactors. Which are better at burning the reprocessed fuel rod
material as well.
In article , nunyabidnits@eternal-
september.invalid says...
Worst earthquake in the history of Japan is hardly "a fairly predictable
natural disaster". They designed for the worst case that anybody had
any reason to expect. You would have had them design to a higher
standard. Fine. But you don't seem to grasp that no matter what you
design for, nature can come up with something worse.
september.invalid says...
Worst earthquake in the history of Japan is hardly "a fairly predictable
natural disaster". They designed for the worst case that anybody had
any reason to expect. You would have had them design to a higher
standard. Fine. But you don't seem to grasp that no matter what you
design for, nature can come up with something worse.
On 3/21/2011 10:48 PM, Andy wrote:
The Japanese will suffer in silence while Western culture tends to
express their troubles externally. The Japanese like to keep it all
within themselves and not burden other folks.
My father, years ago, called me to let me know that he had a "little
accident." "Little accident - no big deal" probably meant that he was in
the hospital and in this case, he had his finger ripped out while using
a lathe and needed me to bring some clothes to him - in the hospital.
The foremost thing in his mind was that I not worry about him. My father
is old school, like that.
I just got back from a funeral for an aunt who died of cancer. She
pretty much wanted it kept quiet so I never even knew she was sick.
That's so typical...
The Japanese will suffer in silence while Western culture tends to
express their troubles externally. The Japanese like to keep it all
within themselves and not burden other folks.
My father, years ago, called me to let me know that he had a "little
accident." "Little accident - no big deal" probably meant that he was in
the hospital and in this case, he had his finger ripped out while using
a lathe and needed me to bring some clothes to him - in the hospital.
The foremost thing in his mind was that I not worry about him. My father
is old school, like that.
I just got back from a funeral for an aunt who died of cancer. She
pretty much wanted it kept quiet so I never even knew she was sick.
That's so typical...
UniquelyGothic
New member
J. Clarke wrote:
Ah. Three layers then.
Ah. Three layers then.
On 3/22/2011 1:07 PM, dsi1 wrote:
Even though he is gone, we celebrated his birthday Saturday by cooking
ribeyes on the grill. We had steak, baked potato and a salad with a
couple of jalapenos. That was one of his favorite meals.
Parents are special people, but IMO, stepparents are extra special.
Becca
Becca
Even though he is gone, we celebrated his birthday Saturday by cooking
ribeyes on the grill. We had steak, baked potato and a salad with a
couple of jalapenos. That was one of his favorite meals.
Parents are special people, but IMO, stepparents are extra special.
Becca
Becca
txnhsehntr
New member
Re: [email protected]
J. Clarke wrote:
You're saying they don't know the maximum energy that can be released by a
given fault? Fact is, they do, except in the case of undiscovered faults. If
you think they miscalculated in Japan, provide some evidence.
J. Clarke wrote:
You're saying they don't know the maximum energy that can be released by a
given fault? Fact is, they do, except in the case of undiscovered faults. If
you think they miscalculated in Japan, provide some evidence.
***Dark~Angel***
New member
dsi1 wrote:
suspect,
in
using
father
That's courage!!!
Between both of you!!!
I once got woken up by ambulance drivers. "We need your help." I asked
what? who?" You're father is having a heart attack and we need your help
to get him to the ambulance.
I wide awoke and ran to his bedroom.
I'll never forget him declaring me the man of the house and that I
should take care of Mom. We were apparently saying our last goodbyes. At
10 years-old I asked him, "what's it feel like?" STUDPID QUESTION. He
said it feels like the weight of the world is on my chest.
He survived four more goodbyes.
Andy
suspect,
in
using
father
That's courage!!!
Between both of you!!!
I once got woken up by ambulance drivers. "We need your help." I asked
what? who?" You're father is having a heart attack and we need your help
to get him to the ambulance.
I wide awoke and ran to his bedroom.
I'll never forget him declaring me the man of the house and that I
should take care of Mom. We were apparently saying our last goodbyes. At
10 years-old I asked him, "what's it feel like?" STUDPID QUESTION. He
said it feels like the weight of the world is on my chest.
He survived four more goodbyes.
Andy
gutz_otoole
New member
In article ,
[email protected]de says...
So how are you going to reduce the population? The only way to do it
quickly that I know of involved a _lot_ of radiation.
If whatever alternative you prefer is so safe why not put that in the
downtown cities rather than the boondocks?
Has it occurred to you that land in downtown cities is _expensive_
compared to land in the boondocks?
No. Do you work for or on behalf of the alternative energy industry?
[email protected]de says...
So how are you going to reduce the population? The only way to do it
quickly that I know of involved a _lot_ of radiation.
If whatever alternative you prefer is so safe why not put that in the
downtown cities rather than the boondocks?
Has it occurred to you that land in downtown cities is _expensive_
compared to land in the boondocks?
No. Do you work for or on behalf of the alternative energy industry?
Re: [email protected]
J. Clarke wrote:
You know as well as I that I'm talking about earthquakes and resulting
tsunamis. You never miss a chance to pick a nit, regardless of how far you
have to divert to find one. Geologists can in general predict the maximum
possible energy release by a given fault, they just can't predict exactly
when and where it will occur or to what percentage of max it will let go.
Any other lame nits?
If it becomes apparent that those older methods are not accurate, yes, of
course, especially when you're talking about nuclear energy. Are you really
unable to grasp that concept?
J. Clarke wrote:
You know as well as I that I'm talking about earthquakes and resulting
tsunamis. You never miss a chance to pick a nit, regardless of how far you
have to divert to find one. Geologists can in general predict the maximum
possible energy release by a given fault, they just can't predict exactly
when and where it will occur or to what percentage of max it will let go.
Any other lame nits?
If it becomes apparent that those older methods are not accurate, yes, of
course, especially when you're talking about nuclear energy. Are you really
unable to grasp that concept?
Japan: "No cause for alarm"
On Mar 22, 6:26?am, Andy wrote:
My Dad, we never knew he had lung cancer until the Dr. told us after
he had died. He didn't want to burden us with his illness. We knew
he had some type of illness; we thought it was just weakness brought
on by old age. But I was somewhat suspicious because he had a
prescription for dilaudid.
On Mar 22, 6:26?am, Andy wrote:
My Dad, we never knew he had lung cancer until the Dr. told us after
he had died. He didn't want to burden us with his illness. We knew
he had some type of illness; we thought it was just weakness brought
on by old age. But I was somewhat suspicious because he had a
prescription for dilaudid.
Re: [email protected]
J. Clarke wrote:
So now you want me to prove a negative? Seriously? It's already been done at
least once.
Do you think that nuclear engineers and
Then you very obviously either can't read or failed to read because I have
advocated exactly that in this thread. You've now gone full circle in a
ludicrous attempt to argue forever.
Like I just said...
Wooo, that's a dire threat and withering rebuke indeed. You aren't capable
of mocking me, only proving repeatedly your compulsive need for nitpicking
argumentative confrontation. Mock on, mockman.
I wouldn't call it conversing.
J. Clarke wrote:
So now you want me to prove a negative? Seriously? It's already been done at
least once.
Do you think that nuclear engineers and
Then you very obviously either can't read or failed to read because I have
advocated exactly that in this thread. You've now gone full circle in a
ludicrous attempt to argue forever.
Like I just said...
Wooo, that's a dire threat and withering rebuke indeed. You aren't capable
of mocking me, only proving repeatedly your compulsive need for nitpicking
argumentative confrontation. Mock on, mockman.
I wouldn't call it conversing.
Japan: "No cause for alarm"
On Mar 22, 7:30?am, Portland wrote:
OOooops. I shouldn't have posted that my Dad took dilaudid. The
stupid cow Omlette will probably call him a wuss for wanting pain
killers. The stupid cow stated that I was a wuss for wanting dope
when they put a tube down into my stomach. She sucks big time. Bull
cock is what she sucks. If she's lucky.
On Mar 22, 7:30?am, Portland wrote:
OOooops. I shouldn't have posted that my Dad took dilaudid. The
stupid cow Omlette will probably call him a wuss for wanting pain
killers. The stupid cow stated that I was a wuss for wanting dope
when they put a tube down into my stomach. She sucks big time. Bull
cock is what she sucks. If she's lucky.
blackbronco92
New member
On 3/23/2011 7:08 AM, Ema Nymton wrote:
I've never heard anybody express this sentiment before. OTOH, I have a
step-mom although I don't really consider her a "mom" cause I was
already grown by the time my father got married. Mostly, she's my
father's wife. I am glad that he has a companion since it would be a
difficult gig for me. Anyway, good for you!
I've never heard anybody express this sentiment before. OTOH, I have a
step-mom although I don't really consider her a "mom" cause I was
already grown by the time my father got married. Mostly, she's my
father's wife. I am glad that he has a companion since it would be a
difficult gig for me. Anyway, good for you!