Is it really true that all ratio cheaters eventually get caught?

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ABYBEATS

very few people can understand me, the main reason is that, my post at first glance looks silly, childish and very basic, but if u have a closer look and if u think of those things which i want to convey then u will find that i was right, a small thing that incorporates everything.


I just want to tell that their is no need to put yourself into any hassle of cheating and keeping your mind stress about the fact that i will be caught one day and banned and may be global baned from this torrent world.

their are option to almost everything, why to waste time and hinder peace of mind for cheating.

just enjoy life.
 
AbyBeats said:
Now that brings me to the next argument.How do people maintain a good "acceptable" ratio in sites like BitmeTV from home connection?
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Three words: Pay to leech Upload Credit Donations

Of course, if you don't want to pay money for a seedbox/fast connection or donation, you can pay with your time (IRC announce monitoring, partial leeching, cross-seeding, and other staff-approved shenanigans). Either way, you're gonna pay.

If you don't like the way they play the game you can always go up the road to one of the many other TV Trackers.
 
Tokeman said:
With responsible downloading, I've had no trouble on a home connection @ BitmeTV. Don't go hog wild with the packs, seed for resonable amounts of time, and you'll be fine. I've NEVER paid for upload credit there.
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Just checked (after a long time) and I got disabled there... My ratio was good there but it was a pain to keep the ratio. I don't know what kind of "home connection" you have or if you live in Japan but my home connection can't keep an account there without partial leech/seed or without grabbing things in other trackers to seed there to make some ratio.
 
ca_aok said:
Of course not everyone gets caught, or people wouldn't still be trying it on private trackers. A huge number of them do get caught and banned, and the oh so lovely folks you mentioned in the OP have had several dupe accounts on various sites after being banned, but if that's how they choose to act there's not much you can do about it, it merely speaks to their character.
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and there you go again with the big words,you refused to produce the scummeter so I'll just assume it doesn't exist.

character:the mental and moral qualities distinctive to an individual.
 
i'm sad to admit that i've gotten by most, if not all, of my private tracker memberships by donating money (pay2leech) or designing graphics for upload credit
 
sez said:
Most of you saw mbm's thread about jacking his 'distant' neighbours wifi and saw how it ended.That extra bandwidth was a necessity and the final solution was to cheat the system.Now does that make him a scum?Does it even attest to his character?ca_aok?Has it altered your opinion on him?
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Actually it did, as we've discussed among ourselves. And regarding your "scummeter", I'm not even sure what the hell you're asking me for as I never mentioned such a thing. When you run a tracker, putting your ass on the line if the authorities come knocking at the door, the last thing you want to see is people profiting off your hard work (sellers, traders), or people not giving back what they take, since this is the foundation of BT compared to DDL or direct P2P (cheaters). Is that the answer you're looking for?

It's ok that you lack any sense of respect or care for the people facilitating your filesharing, that's your choice to make. Re: anon's morality, you're not going to sway me here. We see one side of him here, I've seen another side of him elsewhere. He's great at what he does and a consummate professional, that doesn't mean he's a good person for what he does. Giving children a loaded gun when they don't know how it works and probably don't realize that they may end up shooting themselves in the foot with it shortly down the road is not a charitable action.

Edit: If you're desperate to continue this conversation, feel free to PM me rather than having us derail the thread. I doubt either of us will change our minds though, arguing on the internet is rather pointless.
 
AbyBeats said:
Now that brings me to the next argument.How do people maintain a good "acceptable" ratio in sites like BitmeTV from home connection?
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Seed season packs, especially if you can cross-seed.

I used to RSS stuff there on my home connection (40kB/s up) and I could often get a ratio of 1-2 after leaving a torrent seeding for a week or two. Seedboxes tend to drop off after the first few days.

But as I said a few posts up, there are plenty of viable alternatives to BitMeTV for those with slower connection speeds.
 
SCC isn't too bad considering all the freeleech stuff. That's mainly what I consume there anyway. It's much easier to get 0-day stuff from a ratioless tracker or a large site like IPT if you have a slow connection.

Along those same likes, you could try BTN for ratioless TV, or a large site like freshon.tv or TvT.com where it's much easier to gain ratio.
 
AbyBeats said:
Now that brings me to the next argument.How do people maintain a good "acceptable" ratio in sites like BitmeTV from home connection?
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I have managed to get decent ratio's on every tracker (including BitmeTV and other harder to seed trackers). BUT I do know what to download and what not, and I also realise I could buffer 1TB easily with a seedbox, but I haven't used those for a very long time and don't intend to in the future.
Since I seed on a home-connection (upspeed about 130-140 KB/s) and got into HD-content (1080p rips, etc...) that are many GB's per movie, I have explored other download-methods, that don't require me to seed 24/7/365 and still struggling with my ratio.
I've been using http-boards, where you can find everything and more on RS/MU/HF/NL/MF, etc ... (JDownloader FTW).
Lately I've started to use newsgroups also as a source of download, and must say I'm more than pleased. Mind you ... I have no payserver, no subscription whatsoever, but when looking a bit on the net you always find ways to get what you want without paying.

I just mean people should be realistic and realise some trackers aren't meant for people on a home-connection. Maybe it's not fair but that's the way it is. I just search for other ways to get what I want.
 
This is what I would like to know: anon-sbi insists that you will never be banned if you cheat in a smart way. However, this is what this blog ( http://www.****************.org/blog/?p=273 ) mentions: "Eventually, all cheaters will be caught and in most cases will be globally banned from any torrent site they are a member of." So, who's right and who's wrong about that: is it the author of the blog or is it anon-sbi? I know that anon-sbi himself was banned for cheating at what.cd, but managed to get another account. So, were you ever again caught for cheating, anon-sbi? What about you, Mihai? Were you ever caught because of your cheating? I read on the bitmetv forums that some people had been cheating for years before they had been caught. So, if it's possible to get away with cheating for years, it's possible to get away with cheating forever? What are your thoughts on it, anon-sbi? What are the thoughts of other cheaters and non-cheaters concerning this subject?

By the way, for some reason, that link kinda concealed itself. I was talking about a pirate society blog.
 
when i had 10/10 line, it took me around 24 hours to become PU @ bitmetv. Yes, it took some effort and time, but after that i was pretty free to download what i want, and then seed it...
 
AbyBeats said:
Dude,you seriously need a better perspective of things,tbh all those three points you made are totally stupid.I dont even feel like quoting each of them and explaining it.Sorry if I sound like a troll but thats how I truly feel.
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I wouldn't call BABBY's points stupid. That's not because I agree with them, however, but rather because I don't want to offend him (or anyone else here) by calling his point of view "stupid". We're all entitled to our opinion, after all.

I do recommend you read the link AbyBeats posted, though. I think I explained everything over there.
 
tknaught said:
If you don't like the way they play the game you can always go up the road to one of the many other TV Trackers.
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Cheaters dont play by their rules.I thought it was obvious.And from a cheaters pov,why should he leave an organized and content rich site when he can get what he want.
 
AbyBeats said:
Yes I did say that.It was a nice place until those freaks started to ban people left and right for speaking their mind and turning the place into shit.
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Totally random related question. Are you still a member there? I'm not trying to make you out to be a hypocrite, I'm just trying to understand the full picture.
 
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