Is it really true that all ratio cheaters eventually get caught?

You can be caught
-if someone from the staff actually verify your ratio on every torrent and see the magic, ratio 0.2 on most of the torrents but on 2 -3 packs 100 -500 gb upload --> idiots.
-or they have some great scrips that anon doesn't know haw they work,yet :P
 
OlegL said:
this is what this blog ( http://www.****************.org/blog/?p=273 ) mentions: "Eventually, all cheaters will be caught and in most cases will be globally banned from any torrent site they are a member of."
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What else would you want them to say? Seriously.

And I wasn't banned from What.cd for cheating. It was some shit involving transparent pixels and the infamous CSS hack, which we weren't shielded against at the time. That no longer holds true, however.

I also lost my first BCG account that way. But What.cd was the biggest loss - a 2008 account, that should speak for itself. I didn't even bother trying to get back in, until exactly one year ago someone PMed me asking me if I wanted an invite. He said he didn't know anyone else to give it to, and that he'd be honored to have me on his invite tree. Great guy. I took it, registered, and that account remains enabled to this day.

And to answer your question, no, it isn't true, and anyone trying to convince you of the opposite is either an idiot or doesn't know any better. Not that the fact a large chunk of cheaters don't get caught means you or anyone else should attempt to do it, anyway.
 
stoi said:
PS no all cheaters do not get caught, they seed slowly, which i have never undertood, if you seed slowly cheating, you may as well upload properly.
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I would have to think most of those cheaters are the ones from countries with terrible bandwidth? If it was someone like that who was only "padding" his stats a bit in order to survive and to be able to maintain a 1.0 ratio, I wouldn't have much of an issue with that, as long as he was actually seeding the torrent as well. It's the cheaters who are only doing it to give themselves "impressive" stats, or to buffer accounts to make them more valuable to trade/sell that I have issue with.
 
AbyBeats said:
Now that brings me to the next argument.How do people maintain a good "acceptable" ratio in sites like BitmeTV from home connection?
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With responsible downloading, I've had no trouble on a home connection @ BitmeTV. Don't go hog wild with the packs, seed for resonable amounts of time, and you'll be fine. I've NEVER paid for upload credit there.
 
tknaught said:
Three words: Pay to leech Upload Credit Donations

Of course, if you don't want to pay money for a seedbox/fast connection or donation, you can pay with your time (IRC announce monitoring, partial leeching, cross-seeding, and other staff-approved shenanigans). Either way, you're gonna pay.
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Some very good viable options indeed ...

tknaught said:
If want to cheat, then just do it and face the consequences.
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Who said the contrary here? :unsure:

tknaught said:
Don't try to dress it up and pretend that you were forced into cheating by BMTV.
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Who tried to dress up here? :blink:

The reasons why cheaters cheat is discussed here and I did make a post about that above.
 
th0r said:
maybe you should bring some of your comments to cfs, that place is dead as a doornail
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killercam is taking a vacation.let him come back :happy: and all else are chasing after defcon chicks :shifty:

P.S:th0r,is that you in backies blog asking for ninecats boobs?nonetheless,I havent have laughed so hard in sometime but after reading some of that comments,I was just lol.
 
7th said:
I didn't take the time to read all this thread but in my point of view, those who try to keep an over buffered account with its seed boxes in any tracker are as bad as those who decide to cheat.

Well, actually I think I prefer cheaters... At least they leave me some room to seed =P
Btw, I have an account in a great tracker that I simply can't use (and I don't use) because it's impossible for me to survive there unless I "part-seed", but that's not worth the effort. Damn seed boxes when they're not wisely used!

ps.: I almost got banned from one of my favorite trackers for inviting a cheater (who promissed he woudn't cheat)... But that is easy to solve. Simply don't invite people to private trackers anymore! =/
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If you invited him via FST, you can be helped.

You're probably talking about SCC. It's indeed true. Even when I used seedboxes, I hardly managed to reach decent ratios there, and with my home connection it's very rare the torrent I reach over 0.5
 
Well, I know a few people that have mass cheated on many trackers. Both small and big. They never get caught in cheating and they never will! Just use your brain if you want to cheat and then you will never get caught even on the big trackers! :)
 
anon-sbi said:
Do I have to come up with a creative way to reply, or does a plain "yes" suffice?
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hey anon

i really dont understand one thing about cheating


why do u or anyone cheat?

some of the main reasons can be

(1) to get a good ratio

but i dont think 20 to 30 dollars is more for anyone right now, u can easyly built a ratio of 1 tb on most of the tracker within a month with a good seedbox

more over if u are finding problems with some hard to seed tracker, then why to use it, use other trackers which are easy to seed.

(2) to get invites

I think the best way to get invites in almost any tracker is to donate and secondly having friendly relationship with staffmembers in irc, ratio thing helps very less as far as invites are concerned.

(3) to trade

I dont think that by trading we can earn our livelyhood or we can buy those things which we are found of in real life like iphone, good designer clothes or our college fees. and even if we manage to buy those things at times, this is only one type of once source of income, i think if we invest time in more productive place then all these things will be easy to come by then trading.


I just could not find a good reason to cheat

I think u would really be knowing more than me, so i asked u.

just a friendly question
 
stoi said:
PS no all cheaters do not get caught, they seed slowly, which i have never undertood, if you seed slowly cheating, you may as well upload properly.
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Often the first check I'll do when looking at a potential cheater is the maximum speed offered by their ISP. If they cheat slowly, it's much more likely to look reasonable in that respect.

The problem is most cheaters aren't doing it as just a slight padding, they're using their cheat client like a seedbox, except worse since they aren't even helping anyone's download speed. Just sit there, cheat your way to a huge ratio, and drop the torrent a few hours later.
 
Stupid thread. Off course not all of them get caught. But a large majority of them do get caught because of some mistake they make, for becoming to greedy, for being stupid ...

Why is this even discussed here?

@ Abybeats: People that do not have the means to get a decent ratio should not join at those places imo.
If you didn't have any money, you wouldn't stay in the Ritz/Hilton/Waldorf wouldn't you?
 


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