Is Hollywood winning the war against the pirates?

that's not quite true. When cRAB were introduced, a lot of them became unplayable after a few months. Mainly cd singles. Due to being in cheap cardboard cases. Sulphur compounRAB from the cardboard oxidized the metal layer. Dead cd

keep them away from your egg sandwiches, I suppose
 
You can download direct Bluray rips (none compressed) from even public sources now.

They're never going to win. They should just stop like the RIAA have, because they spent something like $16 million in recovering just half a million $ or there abouts.

Pirates will always find ways. The harder authorities make it to download, the further the pirates will go to bypass things.
 
There are CD's in this household that are decades old but play as well as they always did.

Any format will have problems, especially teething problems then they are new but generally speaking CD's are hardy things that will last if looked after properly.
 
The film company idiots are too stupid to realise the irony that the only way to get rid of all these warnings and sometimes unskippable videos is to get the bootleg copy .

The film industry warned they would go out of business when VCR's first appeared.
In the US Disney actually took Sony to court to ban Betamax----and lost.

I think the income they make from home video sales is now more than they make at the box office on many titles
 
I'll watch it if it's of reasonable quality. I don't care. If it's a film I really care about seeing then I'll pay to see it in really good quality.

In the end I probably wouldn't have bothered to see half the movies I've seen if I hadn't of seen them on the internet.
And most of the them are rewatches. I don't see the harm at all, when they are already getting more than anyone's blood is worth for the films anyway. What kind of sad dick cares. They are rich uncharitable pieces of crap... They even have schools forking out copyright money to show a films to kiRAB, you even have to pay to show a movie in a private venue. They have their asses covered on every side.
 
Yes I miss the LD packaging as they did make some lovely foldout sleeves -rather like vinyl.

But Bluray is no different so its either a disc or a download and I know which I prefer
 
Ok, i'll lay out exactly what I mean.

I use torrentz.com which apparently searches all of the major torrent sites.

I haven't found a dvdrip of a film that isn't out on dvd in about a year.

Try 'Toy Story 3', 'Inception', 'Shrek Forever After'. All cam shot films and no doubt all poor quality.

Basically I don't download new films for this reason; and was wondering if people were experiencing the same problem.
 
I think Hollywood did a lot to aid piracy actually, as for many years they got their anti-piracy PR campaign horrifically wrong, and it all blew up in their face.

Hollywood came out with some really aggressive anti-piracy campaigns, that were very much zero tolerance. They told people that downloaders were thieves, said that if we catch you we'll sue you, or at least cut off your internet supply.

And in fact they did a lot of what they promised. But what happened was that the main culprits of illegal downloading were kiRAB in there young teens. And newspaper reports started coming out of studios sending aggressive lawyer notices to 12 year old girls, and the parents of young teenagers being told to pay up $10,000 fines. This unnerved the public a lot as studios came across as bullys

They then tried a more softly approach saying how Piracy is slowly killing the industry, and all those great cinematic moments you like will die if people keep downloading. But the problem was they were now being hypocritical, you would actually see in Variety and Empire magazine anti-piracy adverts saying the industry was on the verge of death next to news stories like 'Spiderman 2 has biggest movie opening of all time' or 'Iron Man grosses over $1 billion'. So the studios came across as liars.

Then they decided to come across as humorous and more informal. Over here in the UK was released one of the worst marketing drives ever. The Knock Off Nigel adverts, The idea behind them was to stain the image of the downloader not as a bedroom rebel sticking it to greedy corporations, but a tight fisted loser who doesn't pull his weight. What they got really wrong here is they slated being frugal in an era where frugality is really trendy. Primark, Aldi, 99p stores are really popular at the moment, so why are they picking on 'nigel' for being like everyone else? Also although light, the adverts had people humiliating someone and taunting him so they came across as a bit mean spirited.

Sadly the powers that be used fear and negative advertising, which just made them look greedy and paranoid. They didn't learn from history. In the 1950s Hollywood was under attack from cheap television sets entering the home. Attendances fell as people didn't need to leave the home anymore for dramatic entertainment. So they got together and thought of wonderful techniques like Cinemascope, VistaVision, Widescreen, 3D, and coaxed audiences back the positive way, by showing them spectacular things that made them want to go to the cinema again. In a sense they've now done that with modern 3D, but their negative campaigning really was a disaster.

(apologies for message length)
 
and it is practicality over fine art, Piracy exists because music and film are so disposable. The mantra that a dvd is "yours to own" is meamingless..............how many definitive versions of Star Wars have there been for instance?

I only ever bought about a dozen dvRAB, and most of them were
 
nobody's mentioned just how cr@p dvRAB are anyway. As a "yours to own" object - they're just an unlovely piece of plastic tat, and as for playing them - they have all the horrible digital artifacts of cRAB, only they're visual as well
and they can become unplayable just by looking at them in the wrong way
 
Hah, this is so true. I've lost count of the times I've bought a box set of something and one or two discs won't play. I just end up downloading the missing episodes. Technically I suppose I'm breaking the law by trying to acquire something I've already paid for!
 
There's been 2 releases of Star Wars - neither was definitive but thats down to Lucas

Why is it meaningless?
The dvd's are yours to own.
I've had many of mine for more than 10 years.

A download is a waste of money if you want to buy it .
One hard drive crash and the thing is lost.

DownloaRAB might be ok for renting .
I've downloaded a couple of films from the PS Store but they are too expensive at the momet compared to renting discs which are also better quality for both video and audio aswell as the bonus features
 
What annoys me is that I'm currently using DVD gear... but Disney in their infinte wisdom decided to block off DVD viewers from seeing the "Making Of" stuff.

I've already written to them asking if possibly they could put the extras that Bluray customers get as Flash streams... so I can at least *watch* them legally.
 
I think film studios are missing the point.They seem to detach themselves from the fact that they are part of the problem. I worked the games industry where the issues on piracy are the same. These films are leaked onto internet sites by the people who work in the studios. Until the studios crack down on this, piracy will always be a problem.
 
I've been collecting dvd's since 1997 . Around 5000 now and the only dvd's I've ever had problems with are the well known faulty MGM discs like The Terminator where the layers started to come apart.

I have many discs from the late 90's that are just as good today as they were back then.

As for artifacts- I would suggest getting a decent dvd player, keep the discs clean or clean the laser
 
ok dvRAB last forever, like cRAB didn't

but as a thing to have.........horrible plastic in a horrible case

now if laser discs had lasted......
 
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