Iron Man 2

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Johnny Blaze

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With just over a week to go I thought it was time to start a thread for a film I've been looking forward to for ages...

The new trailer's been showing at the cinema and things are looking good.....:)
 
With the Marvel superhero films there is always a clip half way through or at the end of the credits.

In this film it's right at the very end after every credit has been done

In the film the male agent assigned to work with Natasha/Natalie tell Stark he has been reassigned and was going to Mexico.
In the clip it cuts to him and he is in the desert over looking a big crater. The scene switched to inside the crater and a close up of Thor's Hammer. Yet another tie-in of Fury putting The Avengers together for that film in 2012/2013.
 
I really loved the first movie and I've been looking forward to the sequel since the first poster went online last year. I thought the first one was great, better than the amazingly long winded Dark Knight which followed it. I like Batman but I hated The Dark Knight, it was a superhero movie trying to be something more serious and superhero movies are not supposed to take you on a moral journey, they're supposed to entertain you while you stuff your face with over-priced snacks. I don't care if Iron Man 2 isn't a critical success, I'm sure it'll be funny, daft and just a good fun movie. It's guaranteed to be one of the highest grossing movies of the year.

I've read the Empire review of the film and the long winded and absolutely vague Guardian review, and yes, some reviews are likely to be mixed aren't they always. You can't please everybody. Believe it or not there are people out there who hated Avatar despite it being 'critically acclaimed' across the board. But I'm still going to see Iron Man 2regardless of what reviewers say. I used to care, thinking it would further my appreciation for film. So I'd listen to what they say and find myself disagreeing when I watched the films. More to the point the all knowing film buff Kermode slamming the Bourne Ultimatum and praising the Twilight Saga did it for me - no more reviews. Even though I have read some of the IM2 reviews, and I respect the writers opinions -because that's what they are, one person's opinion- its not enough to change my decision to watch this film. I've seen what the critics have to say, now I'll watch it and make up my own mind.
 
Thought this was a terrible disappointment. I liked the first one but this just dragged.

There was no spark between pepper and tony
 
Really? I thought that was the worst part, for me she just seemed to dainty and almost like she was just cherographed extremely well. It didn't look natural.
 
Although the original was good it was a bit slow to get into the action. Looks liek there will be trouble from the start with the sequel.
 
Good lord the bass in IMAX... every time Iron Man's flying you feel like you're about to shake out of the seat!

I'd say that's a good summary of the movie too. The action comes in three main sequences which might be more than you'd expect but I think Marvel are being very cunning here. If they stuffed the film with fights it'd a) get boring and b) remove any incentive to do sequels. What we get here is well staged, fun, exciting and is all a logical extension of the plot. There's a lot going on but it's all pretty easy to follow and everyone has decent motivations for what they do. Oh, and one action scene is set to a Queen song which automatically makes it awesome :D
 
His father "defected" in the sixties to help bring back technology to the Soviets. when Tony's dad realised he wanted to use the power technology for "bad", he basically had him deported, which didnt please the soviets as he came home without any advanced tech so they shipped him off to Siberia where he lived out his life in an alcoholic stupor. His son blamed the Starks for his fathers plight, felt his father was betrayed (since he helped Howard stark build the original arc generator, how his fathers contribution had been removed from history), and his hatred ended up being focused on Tony Stark. He wanted to make him suffer rather than out and out kill him, because he wanted to discredit him in the eyes of the public.

It's all there in the film, and not exactly hidden beneath subtext.



We see a Tony Stark who is basically dieing, slowly loose the plot, that is why he does all the irresponsible stunts and crazy acting out. Around this central story we see his frienRAB briefily loose faith in him, we see Whiplash's reasons for wanting to hurt Stark, we see his business rival want to discredit him, we get a better look at Shield with Fury, we see tony figure out the message his father left him and develop a new element, whichi n turn lets him repower himself without the fear of dieing, which brings the old Tony back, we then see an all out action scene at the end when many, many drones attack and chase Stark before he and rhodes take them down in a fight, which is before they face off against Whiplash one more time.

Is the film filled with all out action moments dashing from one to the next? No. Does "not much happens in it" describe the film remotely? again no.
 
Really? I thought the fight scene was quite good and believable, although by this point maybe I was so starved of action i'd settle for Steven Segal showing up and doing the business.

To echo what other people here say, I didn't find it a bad movie just bland. Really bland. Iron Man never really seemed in any sort of danger so what few action scenes there were I never felt any sort of tension. Rourke was so easily defeated at the start that when he was inserted back in to work on the robots I didn't feel a sense of impending doom, I just thought Iron Man would blow up some shit robots quite easily, and he did. Kind of like in the new star wars movies, the clones and robots just die so easily that there is no threat or tension. It just some guy mowing through shit we care nothing about.

Secondly while I feel RDJ is a great actor and he wasn't *as* self-loathing as I thought he would be, he basically just gets drunk, whines and bickers with Pepper a lot. Then suddenly
invents a new element
and the movie is almost over. Again I didn't find him a particularly enthralling antagonist, so when there is lack of empathy for the main character, very few action scenes (and when they do come have zero tension) and in general just a main disconnect then what do we have? Scarlett Johanssons ass.

Pretty meh in general in my opinion.
 
That's a real shame.

You post seems to echo a lot of the reviews.

It seems as if Marvel felt that they didn't have to try too hard, as the first film was so good, they thought that maybe they could ride on its coattails, whereas, with the first film, I doubt many people expected that much from it, yet it turned out to be a blockbuster.

Saying all that, I'm not watching it until Thursday, so I shall reserve my judgement until I've seen it; but it's not looking promising from a lot of what I've read.
 
I watched Ironman 2 yesterday. I thought it was quite poor. There was alot of pointless dialouge, especially between Tony and Pepper which is a shame as i love dialouge and characterisation. I just feel she wasn't needed for this film as she didn't really serve a purpose nor did she feature much. This lead to there not being many action sequences as well, although the action scenes that did feature were very breif and final fight was rubbish.

Another problem is the plotholes. For example, how did Ivan (who is human, without any armour) survive being driven into a baricade multilple times ? Even overlooking that he still retains full funtion of his legs. Though i'm pretty sure when the police were dragging him away he had no legs...

This is also the second film in succession to feature an enemy that possess a model of the ironman suit. I can't imagine how they will fit the Mandarin into this universe as his rings are based on alien technology.

I stayed until the end to see the final scene and it was rubbish.
 
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