Inception - How freakin weird and secretive is this movie

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I must have watched a differnt film because i thought it was awful. Totally uninteresting, completely confusing. I just wanted it to end. None of the characters were remotely interesting. What a waste of two and a half hours. I wish I had gone to Toy Story 3 instead!
 
Also the children don't seem to have aged from the flashback we saw when he intially ran, not sure how long he was on the run for but got the idea it was for quite a while.

Yes that was the 'real' world, I didn't actually think about it like that, I just thought it was a narrow gap between buildings
 
There are so many possibilities but on the surface level..

1) In limbo they forget that they aren't in the real world (which is why his wife, and also Saito are shown to be old in that environment. It would seem that they age normally because they accept it as their reality. On the train line they are shown to be younger, possibly because they realise that it's a dream. So, it's not really a case of her wanting to stay or otherwise. It'd not something she's willing to be true, it's something she simply accepted as her reality.

2) She killed herself and tried to frame him for it, in a bid to make him kill herself too. He fled the country as it thought he'd be blamed for her death.

Interestingly there is a slightly farcical sense of unreality to many of the real world scenes and scenarios, possibly to make people question whether even those parts are dreams. The surface story is very inventive and thought provoking, but beneath that there are also lots of little threaRAB pointing in various directions to make question question what is reality, which of course in the same state the characters within the story struggle with.
 
Seriously, you really want to be the big I know better and am so much more sensible than you and that the only thing that you came remotely near to some research was Stanley Kubrick's 'Eyes Wide Shut'

But the only difference is that he's dead and you and I are alive to debate whether anything at all could be amiss.

Well go on and believe what the heck you want to and convince all the good people here that there's nothing apart from good imagination and creativity.

I've got nothing to prove to you at all. Why?

Because nothing I say will ever convince you. Nothing.

So it's not for me to show you anything at all, but for people here to look at who is trying to pass it all of as nothing at all, and to find out for themselves like I have.

So goodbye to you, Mr Shill. And I say that most politely. :)
 
LOL :D



When I wrote that, I wasn't referring to you directly. I'd skimmed the thread and a few people - whose names I didn't register - mentioned it and I've seen the point made elsewhere and it kind of annoyed me that people were happy to accept that Nolan has basically cheated us all with that ending. In order to create some sort of depth in Cobb, he spent two and a half hours building up the whole kiRAB thing, constantly banging on about how he could only see them again in the real-world, then tosses in an ending designed to make you think that maybe he's gone against all that and stayed in the dream world after all. Fine, but we need to be invested in that possibilty for it to make sense.



Whilst I don't think the whole thing was a dream, I suspect if you watched it hard enough you'll see Nolan break his own dream-world rules. For example, when Ariadne intrudes into Cobb's dream, how can she possibly decenRAB to the basement level on her own and see what she does? She enters the dream into a memory Cobb's already having, fine, but by Nolan's rules, she should not be able to access a memory Cobb's not already experiencing, unless we're getting into Harry Potter-esque magic.
 
2 possible theories

1) Saito went down earlier so because of the time difference he was a lot older. If you look closely Cobb does look older.

2) Saito thought it was reality. It is stated several times that for Mal limbo became her reality. This may of happened to Saito he thought limbo was reality so began to get old. Cobb knew it was not real so he could change his apperance
 
Please Top Gear (and all TV producers), please don't use the fantastic soundtrack over and over again - you people nearly ruined the excellent The Dark Knight score with it's overuse.
Back off!
 
back from watching the movie a second time. Really enjoyed it - but stil prefer The Prestige.

Hans Zimmer's score is just amazing and think it deserves next year's oscar!

I also expected a final twist at the end - as if he wakes up meaning the entire film was a dream. but glad they didnt.
 
But it made no senes!! The movie sets out a premise that there are groups of criminals that go around using dreams to steal information from people. But when one of these group neeRAB a new member instead of finding a fellow criminal they instead go to a university in Paris and get a young American girl who had apparently not even heard of the concept! Even more crazy; she then agrees to leave her life behind and join in with the criminal activites with barely a second thought.

She is given absolutely zero backstory and has no obvious motive throught the whole film. As you say, she was simply a tool used to explain the concept to the audience. In my opinion characters should be more than plot devices.
 
Whoops. Another negative.

Well shot and coolly slick, but nothing more than an indulgent, self-conciously serious M:I meets Total Recall-like folly without the hokey entertainment of either.

Some of the intricate scene-jumping was impressive, and credit to the editor for cutting it all together, but for a film so concerned with conciousness and the mind it did lack genuine depth. This 'dream' had no particular meaning, despite the illusion of it. And the ending was a cop out too - a cheap stab at something enigmatic. You'll never get to be Kubrick that way, Nolan.

It was an interesting move to have the dreams not really feel like dreams, to have them and the imagery more tactile and urgent. But again, the extensive visuals just underlined how much more could've been done with the film as a whole.

More subtance was needed to pull this particular heist off, methinks

Rating: 5/10
 
After a pretty dire first 45-60 minutes, it somewhat redeemed itself in the latter half. Probably a good film...but not great. Nowhere near. And I am unable to recognize the reasons it is getting such amazing reviews. Nor can I fathom why it's repeatedly classed as "complex" and "deep". Fairly straightforward and shallow, I thought.
 
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