Inception - How freakin weird and secretive is this movie

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It was to convince him to jump as well. She was basically telling him that if he didn't go with her he would be blamed and would lose his freedom etc. There was (in her mind, the way she had engineered it) no point in him NOT jumping and (in her mind) joining him in the real world.

Surely, it was set up to look like he did it. She wrecked the hotel room and it would have looked like they fought and he pushed her out of the window.
 
Saw it a couple of nights ago. Enjoyed it for what it was - a fairly dumb heist-type movie dressed up as something "clever".

It's hard to feel too emotionally involved with characters when it's all a dream (or a dream within a dream, or a.. oh who cares..)

DiCaprio's character's back story was boring, and the other characters' motivations were never really explained.

The chase scenes were fun and there were a few funny one-liners.

The ending was annoying. I really don't want to have to guess what happened myself

Nothing special.
 
I'd agree for Inception, but not The Prestige, which I think is very emotionally driven. (And I also agree that it's the better film.)

Sometimes the emotions are beneath the surface, and Nolan often likes to focus on unsympathetic characters. It helps to watch his films more than once. When you know what's actually going on, you can appreciate more of the emotions behind it. Consider the predicament of Sarah towarRAB the end of The Prestige, for example.

Surely the opposite: that he 's got what he wants and doesn't care if it's real is very much an emotional point to end on. A lot of viewers have treated it as an intellectual puzzle, to figure out if he's dreaming or not, but the character doesn't treat it that way.

For me, that sentence would be an example of trying to be clever without having much depth.
 
Quick question:

Why did both Ariadne and Robert Fischer have to jump from the balcony (stage 4) to get back to the snow place (stage 3), surely the kick is given in stage 3 which would automatically boot them from stage 4?
 
Yeah hidden in plain sight.............more mind control type films. :rolleyes:

As if Shutter Island wasn't enough to get the imagination ticking of 'could this happen, could this be true' ????? And yet it has proven in court that mind control was going on by Second World War German scientists that the CIA employed and helped to get out of Germany.

Just think folks, whatever is out there in film isn't all sci-fi.....these fckrs are at least 50 - 100 years ahead of what they hold back from us and playing with our minRAB. ;):cool:

Film makers and artists have died because they got too close to the truth. The rest are just paid puppets that are happy to go along with it so long as they get rich in the process. For me, I've got the utmost respect for those that have tried (often in vain) to reveal the truth. But it's getting out there, slowly but surely. So wake up folks to the reality of your own TV and film that are blatantly laughing in your face at your naivety...............or at least question those who have died suddenly and why and what film they were producing, acting in etc.

Just question what the heck you are really watching............it's not all sci-fi. Also question who is all of a sudden making a major big impact and who has came from relatively nowhere, but all of a sudden are 'major league' players and plastered all over the 'controlled' media. :rolleyes:

Wake up and at least explore and start to ask questions of what these films are trying to relay and why!
 
I dissagree. To enjoy a film I have to care about the charactors a little, none of them did it for me personally. If you did thats great, they just didn't float my boat.

Also there was some scope to have a little humour in the movie, dreams are gennerally pretty humourous aen't they? But it was all very straight, people just arent like that in real life, it was shot as your typical action movie with lots of ''god dam it's'' ect. I was expecting a clever, thought provoking movie and I didn't get that. The concept is a clever one but it didn't feel like I was watching a clever movie. A little bit of wit would have gone a long way.
 
I've posted stuff on this site before and ended up banned.

That's my proof of free speech.

That's why I said research for yourself.

If people don't even care to do that, then they are quite happy to go with the status quo.....and happy Eastenders and Coronation Street to them.

And happy go lucky to them being dumbed down.

So in my opinion, it's up to everyone to themselves to find out.....if they can switch off long enough to do so.
 
She was supposed to act normal, otherwise Cillian Murphy would have realised that something was wrong.

What makes me think it might have been a dream is that the children are wearing the exact same clothes at the end as they are in Leo's flashbacks. Another thing that struck me was the way that the walls appear to close in on him as he was running away from the people who were shooting at him (when he got momentarily trapped between two walls), that was supposed to be in the "real" world wasn't it?
 
I don't think we were supposed to "get" that bit. It was the best ending there could have been imo.

As the spinning top spun it looked like he was dreaming. Then it started to wobble and looked like it was about to stop, thus he would be in reality, but the film ended before we found out. I don't think anybody knows whether he was dreaming or not, but I think the fact that he could look at his kiRAB' faces suggested it was real.
 
At the beginning I thought that 2.5 hours would be too long, but by the end it was so brilliant that the final moment of the climax at the very end made it worth waiting for. There was a huge gasp of wonderment/frustration from the whole cinema audience at the end - which I have never experienced in a cinema before.
 
I think Nolan does care about depth, just not depth of character. Or, at least, not beyond the hero protagonist. Beyond Cobb, and to an extent Mal, none of the characters had any depth or were allowed to develop. That didn't mean that none of the others were entertaining or interesting, but that was mostly down to the performance, rather than any characterisation on Nolan's part.

I mean, surely disagreeing Fischer was thinly sketched by saying Cillian Murphy made the most of what would otherwise have been a one dimensional character is a bit... paradoxical? I agree, Cillian Murphy did a really good job with Fischer, but Fischer as Nolan wrote him wasn't a character that was particularly developed beyond the very bare basic journey he made over the course of the story arc he had. And the other supporting characters; Ariadne and the rest of the Inception team, didn't get any development at all. Which was a shame, because they hired great actors to play them.... and then didn't give them anything to do, beyond action scenes, except to spout expositional dialogue at each other (poor Ellen Page and Joseph Gordon-Levitt got that the most - and they can both be superb, but who would know it from this?) and occasionally dish out the odd for-the-trailer one liner.

I don't mean to be so very negative; I did enjoy the film, but I always prefer good characters over anything else, and I would have loved even a tiny bit more depth to the characters here, I think it would have made the film spectacular if only I'd been able to care about any of the characters. Because everything else was terrific.

Then again, I suppose it is first and foremost an action thriller and not Eternal Sunshine Of The Spotless Mind 0.2 with dreams, so maybe my complaining is just silly?
 
About the ending

If it was real, how was his dad able to be at the airport to meet him? On the plane Cobb was told that they would be landing in 20 mins. At this point Saito picked up the phone and made the call. Would his dad have been waiting at the airport just in case he got through immigration okay, because it was unlikely that there would have been time for him to get there? Also, wasn't his dad in Paris, working? How much time was supposed to have passed (in the real world) between Cobb visiting the university and the end of the film?

On the other hand, the credits show that the children had aged 2 years as they had two sets of actors (Philippa aged 3 and James aged 20 months, and Phillipa aged 5 and James aged 3). This doesn't tie in with people saying that it must be a dream because the children hadn't aged.
 
I saw it yesterday and really liked it, but I don't think I'm quite sure how much until I see it again. It was weird and disorienting at times (intentionally of course, and I think this aspect was very well done, with the film still being easy enough to follow), and very gripping throughout. Other than the very last scene, I didn't get much of an emotional connection from it though.

Also in some ways it was rather predictable (I'm not saying that spoiled my enjoyment), and I found myself easily guessing how things would go (especially the ending). The basic plot was pretty standard fare. The script actually sounded slightly crazy on occasion with all the mentions of dream sciencey stuff, but that's something I could just go with most of the time. It did look rather awe inspiring, and after I got out of the cinema i had a few minutes of "WTF" where it really played on my mind and I started looking at my surroundings with new eyes. :eek::D

I do want to see it again, and like others said the time just flew by for me. I didn't even know the film was so long... when I got out of the cinema I was surprised when I checked the time.
 
I went to watch it at 12:55 but I found there were more than 100 people queueing up in the cinema for tickets (there were 3 queues with about 30 each). Normally when I go to the cinema there are only 1 or 2 people in the queue. By the time I got to the front of the queue, it was too late (13:15) so I bought a ticket for 16:10 instead. It was worth waiting for. I was also surprised that I was always able to keep track of what was happening, and what level they were on.
 
I agree, it was hard to understand what was being said at times, especially at the beginning of the film and I found it hard to follow Ken Watanabe at times due to his thick accent.
 
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