Imagine no teabaggers

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Why would anyone support a political party based on constant lies and ignorant leadership?

I'm not criticizing those who support the Second Amendment. But it is a little Wild West to come armed to a demonstration. And I agree that people in this country are free to hold whatever opinions they want. But why knowingly spread vicious lies? I don't get it. If you believe it, say it. But don't make stuff up. That corrupts the democratic process. Why portray Obama as a Nazi when he is nothing like a Fascist at all? And what is with the persistence of the Birthers? They look rediculous.

How can any of you defend them? I understand how some of you can be Conservatives. But you weren't brought up to be stupid.

xtisme: In the mean time I have to admit that I'm enjoying the show!
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I know your kind.
 
jsgoddess said:
No, that was the part where I expressed skepticism for the lack of impeachment to date having any weight.
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You're still not getting the point, are you? I have been trying to REBUT the observation, combined with condescending denials that anything else could be the case, that nothing that happened to Clinton could possibly compare to the amount of shit Obama has faced. You seem to agree with me. Clear now?

I'm baffled as to how I'm no better than a teabagger when I think that some of the hatred of Obama exceeds the hatred of Clinton, and I think some of that hatred is fueled by racism.
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You're not a blanket denier, true. Others are, though. And of course some of the current crop of Republican hate-mongering is racially fueled - just not all or even the bulk of it. Clear on that now too?

Trish, go explain that to Turnipbrain or BobTheApostle or Head Shot Off by Guns, okay? Sheesh.
 
ElvisL1ves said:
Why is it so important to you to insist that the teabaggers are only or even primarily racist, not partisan?
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I don't think all teabaggers are racist. Some of them are just retarded.

Damuri Ajashi said:
I don't see her arguing that this is all a race thing anywhere.
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Thanks for the defense, Damuri, but even if I didn't say it in this thread, I do believe that Obama is getting more heat than Clinton did because he's Black. I do not believe that all of the pushback is racist--as I said, some people are just stupid. (And a very few of them on the right have at least partially reasoned objections.) But I am certain that a good deal of the vitriol--especially the really disgustingly unreasoned stuff--is about Obama being not just a "liberal" but a Black one.

Stoneburg said:
I wasn't attacking you, I was only pointing out that althoug it would be nice if wilful ignorance wasn't your problem, or mine, that's just not the case. Wilful ignorance will affect you, and you don't want it to, so it IS your problem. And mine. And everyone elses.
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Well, that's what happens when you don't fully articulate your response--I can't tell what part of my post you're responding to or what your actual position is. :p

When I say willful ignorance isn't my problem, I don't mean that it doesn't affect me so much as I don't have to cut anybody any slack for it.

ElvisL1ves said:
Again, it's about the claim by the idolators that no hatred could ever have been or be in any way nearly as strong as the hatred for their own favorite superhero.
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Do me a favor. Go find a post anywhere on this site where I appear to be a fan of Obama. (Hint: You won't.) I voted for him as being the vastly better of the only two viable options. Subjectively, he's a million miles better than McCain ever would have been (especially tied to Palin). But objectively, I don't like him much at all. Obama is nowhere near liberal enough for me, and he never will be.

See what kind of retarded-ass conclusions you can come to when you start from false premises?

ElvisL1ves said:
Head Shot Off by Guns
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Really? That's the best you can do? This is where I'd come up with a similarly bland version of your name, but given that it's already got a 1 in the middle of it, I really can't top that. Honestly, the only way you could make a better mockery of yourself every time you post is by maybe bordering the name with some x's, or make the whole thing intercaps.
 
FTR, I remember the Clinton years too, and while the RW hatred and scandal-mongering and conspiracy-theories against him were quite truly astonishing in their stupidity and ferocity, they bore no comparison to what we've seen since Obama was elected.
 
Shot From Guns said:
ElvisL1ves said:
Head Shot Off by Guns
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Really? That's the best you can do? This is where I'd come up with a similarly bland version of your name, but given that it's already got a 1 in the middle of it, I really can't top that. Honestly, the only way you could make a better mockery of yourself every time you post is by maybe bordering the name with some x's, or make the whole thing intercaps.
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Keep that up and he'll probably give you another sign.
 
Rand Rover said:
What's the scenario for Tea Partiers killing you? How are they going to do it?
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Its hard for me to imagine how one so steeped in conservative bullshit could miss the repeated call to arms, the thinly-veiled threats, the Godwinizing of Obama, the fear-mongering, and the ignorant righteousness that right wing media has spewed. I know you're being purposefully ignorant on this subject, but take that shit somewhere else. People can see through your bullshit, ok?

magellan01 said:
So, you're in proposing a pre-emptive strike?
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By attempting to blur the line between self-defense and pre-emptive strike, you cheapen the meaning of both.

Damuri Ajashi said:
Are you speaking metaphorically? Because I don't think anyone is literally going to shoot you. You did not seem to be speaking metaphorically when you proposed the death of the teabaggers. This is simply not how you win arguments.
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If you don't think anyone would shoot me, then you need to take a look at the rallies and the rhetoric coming out from the Tea Baggers over the past year. Gun-waving lunatics marching with their weapons out to intimidate people, attacks on the office of Democratic Congressmen, calls by people like Beck and Palin to arm themselves or "target" Democrats. Yes, these people are literally going to shoot me if things go bad for them in November. Anyone who thinks otherwise is wearing blinders.
 
Yeah, I dunno. Some keystroke combo on a blackberry involving a t produces a thorn, but I can't figure out how to do it on purpose. And I've only ever done it on the SDMB, never email, so maybe vBulletin is involved somehow as well.
 
Rand Rover said:
Yeah, I dunno. Some keystroke combo on a blackberry involving a t produces a thorn, but I can't figure out how to do it on purpose. And I've only ever done it on the SDMB, never email, so maybe vBulletin is involved somehow as well.
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Since your "understand" is also missing an "n," I'm going to guess it's something involving a "tn."
 
Shot From Guns said:
Rand Rover said:
Yeah, I dunno. Some keystroke combo on a blackberry involving a t produces a thorn, but I can't figure out how to do it on purpose. And I've only ever done it on the SDMB, never email, so maybe vBulletin is involved somehow as well.
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Since your "understand" is also missing an "n," I'm going to guess it's something involving a "tn."
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Shot From Guns said:
Stoneburg said:
I wasn't attacking you, I was only pointing out that althoug it would be nice if wilful ignorance wasn't your problem, or mine, that's just not the case. Wilful ignorance will affect you, and you don't want it to, so it IS your problem. And mine. And everyone elses.
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Well, that's what happens when you don't fully articulate your response--I can't tell what part of my post you're responding to or what your actual position is. :p

When I say willful ignorance isn't my problem, I don't mean that it doesn't affect me so much as I don't have to cut anybody any slack for it.
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Thanks for clarifying that. I'm 100% behind you in not cutting slack for wilful ignorance. And I hope you will agree that wilful ignorance is a very real problem, that it affects everyone, and that itshould be fought as effectively as possible.
 
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