Imagine no teabaggers

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jsgoddess said:
I'm sure you can point to me saying it will always be the case.
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The part where you implied skepticism that it could happen.

I'm glad you're sure that the hatred for Obama isn't at the level of the hatred for Bill Clinton
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It doesn't matter. The point is that the RW-GOP oppositionism and hatemongering we see now is nothing new, it's they way they work, and its roots are in partisanship rather than racism. I have been responding to those who insist, foolishly and ignorantly, that it's all about the blackness of their patron saint.

People hated Bill Clinton. It was obsessive, it was excessive, and it was downright creepy. I see no evidence that the hatred for Obama is less. You do? Fine. It's at least an arguable position.
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Again, it's about the claim by the idolators that no hatred could ever have been or be in any way nearly as strong as the hatred for their own favorite superhero. Of course it can, and has been, and will be again for somebody else.

Get over yourselves and grow up, those of you - you're no better than the teabaggers.
 
Diogenes the Cynic said:
How about the signs that say, "we came unarmed...this time?"

How about the Newsmax article calling for a military coup against Obama?

ETA, I do think that most of them are all talk when it comes to the threats of violence and bloviating about revoluton, but we've already seen them engaging in low level violence and vandalism when emboldened in mobs, and sooner or later one or a few them is probably going to pull a Tim McVeigh or take a shot at somebody. They have some real psychotics in their ranks.
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Well, it takes one to know one. Is paranoia considered a psychosis or just a neurosis?
 
Stoneburg said:
Why death? Why not just imagine they voluntarily moved to an isolated island that was exactly the kind of society they wanted to live in.
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And they're very happy there and let's not talk about this any more, all right? If you're very good, there might be some Libertarians under the Christmas tree this year. But none of the big long-haired breeds, understand?
 
I don't have a persecution complex so don't project your own shit on me. And what point exactly do I prove that it's ok to condmn all sorts of groups for what they believe; but not religion? I don't have a problem pointing out religious bigots or any other group of people who are assholes.
 
Gyrate said:
I am hereby saying this. I am also saying that you are a douche.
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And yet you give no reason. What exactly, would be the loss if they vanished off the earth (or, even better, fell to the ground bleeding from all orafices).

Two pages in, and still nobody can justify the existance of these retards. Why, besides lovey-dovey "we're all god's creatures" bullshit, does society benefit from their presence.
 
xtisme said:
Here's the irony...conservatives have been doing the same thing about liberals (and greens, and lefties, etc etc) for decades now. Many of them feel exactly the same way about YOU and YOU feel about THEM.
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Here's the difference, dipshit: the progressives are right.

Conservatives ARE, by objective fact, racist, sexist, homophobic intolerant, ignorant, hateful, vile scum.
 
ElvisL1ves said:
jsgoddess said:
I'm sure you can point to me saying it will always be the case.
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The part where you implied skepticism that it could happen.
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No, that was the part where I expressed skepticism for the lack of impeachment to date having any weight. If the Democrats retain Congress throughout Obama's presidency, will you still point to impeachment as if it demonstrates greater hatred of Clinton?

I'm baffled as to how I'm no better than a teabagger when I think that some of the hatred of Obama exceeds the hatred of Clinton, and I think some of that hatred is fueled by racism.
 
kidneyfailure said:
Oh, come on...

Now, look, I'm about as left-leaning as is possible without turning into an extremist, but let's be honest here: There were PLENTY of signs with pictures of Bush with bullet holes in his head, Bush with nooses around his neck, and all that type of thing in the recent past. Hell, there was even a movie about him getting assassinated!
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I'll take your word for it, but I nevers aw any signs like that.

The movie did not advocate the assasination of Bush or portray it as justified. It just used it as a premise.
 
Obama is actually a slightly right leaning corporatist. He has backed the banks and corporations since he came into office. He did not kick out the health care companies from the system they are gleefully looting and making miserable. He has not cut back wars of cut defense spending. He did not roll back the ability of the government to spy on us . No, i really don't see why the tea gaggers hate Obama. Unless a Pavlovian response to right wing propaganda is a reason. He has more in common with the right than he does with the left.
 
Stoneburg said:
Would the world be better off without pedophiles? Yes. Do I want to kill all pedophiles. No, because that would be a worse crime. Agreed?
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I don't want to kill all pedophiles because I would go to jail. If I could kill one and not get caught... why the fuck wouldn't I? Unless maybe if that pedo makes some kind of social contribution that exceeds the harm his kiddy-diddling does, he has no right to live. Ditto the teabaggers.
 
The Facts said:
I don't want to kill all pedophiles because I would go to jail. If I could kill one and not get caught... why the fuck wouldn't I?
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Because you might be wrong. And because vigilantism isn't good for society. Societies that can't or don't enforce bans on private killing tend to end up with murder being their primary cause of death.

There's no doubt plenty of people who think that you should be killed for some real or imagined sin.
 
I started a GD thread on the various hatreds of Obama and Clinton, if anyone's interested.
 
There really is no way for things NOT to get better if all the tea baggers would die off. Fuck them and their hateful shit
 
rolandgunslinger said:
And what point exactly do I prove that it's ok to condmn all sorts of groups for what they believe; but not religion?
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That is generally the unspoken thrust of arguments like yours. Unless you are one of the few consistent ones who also insist it's wrong to condemn groups like the Nazis or the KKK, which is stupid for different reasons.

ElvisL1ves said:
It doesn't matter. The point is that the RW-GOP oppositionism and hatemongering we see now is nothing new, it's they way they work, and its roots are in partisanship rather than racism. I have been responding to those who insist, foolishly and ignorantly, that it's all about the blackness of their patron saint.



Again, it's about the claim by the idolators that no hatred could ever have been or be in any way nearly as strong as the hatred for their own favorite superhero.
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You'd be more convincing if you weren't parroting right wing garbage about Obama being "idolated" as a "patron saint" or "superhero". And whether you like it or not there's a huge amount of racism involved in the hatred against him.
 
I'm glad you're sure that will always be the case. And as long it is, Obama can never get the shit Clinton did.
 
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