Imagine no teabaggers

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And I have no idea how that quoting problem came up ...

Damuri, I'd be happy for a cogent explanation from anybody, really. Along with a cogent explanation of what makes visceral Obama-idolators, such as the several in this thread, any better than visceral Obama-haters.
 
Look, can we just agree that idiot extremists are always going to make noise and point their fingers at opponent idiot extremists?

Also, often people in a popular movement don't pay attention to all the fine details of said movement. There are lots of normal, moderate people who support PETA, for example, because hey, they're for animal rights. They've probably never heard the crazy that Ingrid Newkirk preaches. Likewise, there are probably lots of people who think, "Gee, we need a smaller goverment", and so they call themselves Tea Partiers, and they're blissfully ignorant of the stupid going on in their name.
 
ElvisL1ves said:
I was referring to BILL Clinton, you moron.:rolleyes: The President in the 90's, who the slavering right wing actually IMPEACHED after years upon years of shit. Maybe you can find a grownup to tell you about it.
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My mistake. Unfortunately, you're no less wrong.

Bill Clinton was labeled a womanizer, a draft-dodger, a perjurer? People think Obama is the Anti-Christ. Pretty tough to top that.
 
Teabagger literature is not representative of actual rank and file teabaggers, by the way.
 
kidneyfailure said:
Oh, come on...

Now, look, I'm about as left-leaning as is possible without turning into an extremist, but let's be honest here: There were PLENTY of signs with pictures of Bush with bullet holes in his head, Bush with nooses around his neck, and all that type of thing in the recent past. Hell, there was even a movie about him getting assassinated!

The Tea Partiers and right-wing fringe groups are stupid pieces of shit...but so are the left-wing fringe. Let's be honest and admit that, huh?
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No. The left-wing fringe are intelligent pieces of shit. That's just the difference. ;)
 
ElvisL1ves said:
How many news shows from that period do you remember that did NOT include the name "Lewinsky"?
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They at least waited 'til Clinton did something vaguely improprietous. They didn't immediately start making shit up, e.g., about him being a foreigner.

pkbites said:
Do you mean, like, wishing a significantly large group of people who you don't agree with were dead and gone?
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I have no problem with you disliking me for loathing humanity. Also, I object to your use of the indefinite article there. I don't wish "a significantly large group of people who don't agree with were dead and gone." I wish all groups of people whom I don't agree with were dead and gone.
 
I love the teabaggers! Thanks to them, Harry Reid is going to win reelection, something thought impossible just a few moths ago. The same thing is happening in Florida, where it's likely that an independant will win the senate seat who may or may not caucus with the Democrats. Colorado will likely retain the Governorship and a Senate seat in Democratic hands due to teabagger candidates winning in primaries. Hell, the Dems might even take Kentucky if Rand Paul keeps spouting off his crazy ideas.
 
Diogenes the Cynic said:
kidneyfailure said:
Oh, come on...

Now, look, I'm about as left-leaning as is possible without turning into an extremist, but let's be honest here: There were PLENTY of signs with pictures of Bush with bullet holes in his head, Bush with nooses around his neck, and all that type of thing in the recent past. Hell, there was even a movie about him getting assassinated!
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I'll take your word for it, but I nevers aw any signs like that.
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So do a google image search for "Kill Bush Sign" and see several.
 
Shot From Guns said:
They at least waited 'til Clinton did something vaguely improprietous
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:p Thanks for the laugh. Did you spend the 90's in an alcoholic haze or something?
They didn't immediately start making shit up, e.g., about him being a foreigner.
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Not a foreigner exactly, no, but a traitor, communist, pervert, even serial murderer, oh my, yes, indeedy. You could look it up.
 
Diogenes the Cynic said:
It's pretty stupid to try to compare a political group (especially a racist one) to a racial minority.
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The mind set is whats important.
The OP wants a segment of the populace to die and go away because he doesn't like them, and then goes on how nice it would be if they were gone. This mind set is no different than that of a klansman or nazi.
 
rolandgunslinger said:
No Der. If you only "disapproved" religion I wouldn't believe you a bigot. You hate religious people the same as a racist hate people of a different race. You paint every religious person with one big brush and dismiss any possibility that there could be any good that can come from someone religious.
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In other words, you call me a bigot because it feeds your persecution complex. I've never claimed that "no good came from religion"; I've claimed that the effects of religion are overwhelmingly evil. Your grandmother's charity no more redeems religion than the charity of an SS officer would redeem Nazi Germany.

And the analogy with race and religion doesn't work. Race is just an arbitrary concept loosely tied to appearance. Religion is about what people believe and what they do. And you again demonstrate my point; it's perfectly OK to condemn all sorts of groups for what they believe; but not religion.
 
ElvisL1ves said:
I'm glad you're sure that will always be the case. And as long it is, Obama can never get the shit Clinton did.
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I'm sure you can point to me saying it will always be the case. I'm glad you're sure that the hatred for Obama isn't at the level of the hatred for Bill Clinton, but surely you recognize that if impeachment is evidence, it's evidence that will not exist if the Democrats maintain control over Congress, and it's evidence that would not exist if the Democrats during Clinton's term had maintained control over congress.

People hated Bill Clinton. It was obsessive, it was excessive, and it was downright creepy. I see no evidence that the hatred for Obama is less. You do? Fine. It's at least an arguable position.
 
Diogenes the Cynic said:
How about the signs that say, "we came unarmed...this time?"

How about the Newsmax article calling for a military coup against Obama?

ETA, I do think that most of them are all talk when it comes to the threats of violence and bloviating about revoluton, but we've already seen them engaging in low level violence and vandalism when emboldened in mobs, and sooner or later one or a few them is probably going to pull a Tim McVeigh or take a shot at somebody. They have some real psychotics in their ranks.
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To Be Fair (TM), they did claim they wanted a 'bloodless coup'.
 
Shot From Guns said:
They at least waited 'til Clinton did something vaguely improprietous. They didn't immediately start making shit up, e.g., about him being a foreigner.
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Well, they made shit up about him killing people.

Of course, Obama killed his own grandma.


And Clinton was accused of all sorts of sexual improprieties with women.

Of course, Obama is accused of sexual improprieties with drug-addict men.


And Clinton's wife was called a bitch and a shrew.

Of course, Obama's wife is called an ape and a monkey and a communist.


I thought the hatred of the Clintons was extreme... until I saw the hatred for the Obamas.
 
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