ideal kitchen

sf wrote:

Mine was given either 2 or 3 coats of urethane. Much to my
dismay, that diminished the nice matte look of the cork.
Nodding. I have gotten some carpets from an incredibly cheap
Oriental rug shop in the next town. The owner is a weaver from
Afghanistan, and he gets rugs that have been woven by his
relatives and othe people from his village. Other carpet shops
get carpets from him and mark them up by a huge amount.

I do need something for in front of the sink, because of those
little drips that you mention. But the cork is complex, and I
need to find the exact right thing for that locale.

--
Jean B.
 
Pete C. wrote:


Sort of. The "current economic funk" stems primarily from overbuilding,
which was fueled by people thinking certain homes would be more valuable
than they turned out to be. Where people mis-estimated value mostly
had to do with location, and square footage: they failed to realize
that poorly-located homes (in the middle of nowhere) would not hold
value, and they failed to realize that an extra 1200 square feet
would not add much to value.

I don't think overdesigned kitchens are a significant part of it;
but you're right that they may be reflective of the same warped thinking.
There are certainly some fancy kitchens sitting in unoccupied homes
that are not going to move anytime soon.


Steve
 
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says...

However it would be really nice if they put an actual shelf there
instead of an open space surrounded by molding, and put an actual finish
on it so that one had a real chance of getting the dust off.
 
sf wrote:

Mine was given either 2 or 3 coats of urethane. Much to my
dismay, that diminished the nice matte look of the cork.
Nodding. I have gotten some carpets from an incredibly cheap
Oriental rug shop in the next town. The owner is a weaver from
Afghanistan, and he gets rugs that have been woven by his
relatives and othe people from his village. Other carpet shops
get carpets from him and mark them up by a huge amount.

I do need something for in front of the sink, because of those
little drips that you mention. But the cork is complex, and I
need to find the exact right thing for that locale.

--
Jean B.
 
i finally decided on a single sink after i thought a long while about what
it is i actually wash. dh does 99 percent of the actual cooking and i do
that amount of cleaning, i use mostly the d/w and so don't really need two
or three sinks, it really makes a difference when i stopped and thought
about what i washed and what gave me the most problems.

Lee
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On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:05:07 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:



When the heating furnace is in the basement it warms the entire
basement including the basement ceiling, mostly the basement ceiling
(heat rises). I can't imagine a fluorescent light in the basement
would throw off much heat unless trememdously high wattage and left on
24/7... and with all fluorescent fixtures there's metal (usually two
layers with an air space between) that will reflect most all the heat
downward... a 100w incandescent would do much better at heating for
the same energy use. I have both incandescent and flourescent lamps
in my basement but never leave any on unless I'm doing something down
there... my cats have no trouble finding their litter pans and
patroling without lights on. And I don't think very many do kitchen
work barefoot anyway. My kitchen floor is hardwood, it never feels
cold, but still I wear flip flops indoors... and I have cotton dhurrie
rugs at my work stations (machine washable). I tried those thick
rubber mats, they're every expensive, grit collects underneath that
scratches the floor, plus the top surface erodes rather rather
quickly. The dhurries are attractive (I have many designs/colors),
they are very inexpensive so I buy more whenever I see nice ones, they
last a long time, and I like that I can launder them... I use them in
the bathrooms too.
This works for me: http://i54.tinypic.com/oks676.jpg
 
On Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:39:28 -0500, "J. Clarke"
wrote:


It's far more efficient to design a kitchen with a pantry, even if a
small one... or store little used items in a cabinet in the garage, or
on shelves down the basement. I don't like to store anything where I
can't reach it by standing on the floor. My kitchen cabinet soffits
are enclosed, I don't really need any crap collectors... I've seen
lots of folks who have a three car garage but have to leave their
vehicles out on the driveway, or can't even close their garage doors
because they're so crammed with absolutely useless crap. I don't even
use the rear of the bottom shelves of my kitchen cabinets, I don't
like to crawl on the floor to reach for things. I don't stuff things
into every bit of drawer and closet space, the more empty the better I
like it. I think way too many people are crap collectors.
 
J. Clarke wrote:

Thanks for the thought, but I think downdrafts are tinker toys, to be blunt.
Useless when you are simmering stocks in a really big pot, cooking in a wok,
etc.

Think 30-yr-old Thermador. Thermador replacement parts are expensive.

As it turns out, it looks like we might just scrap the current kitchen
entirely and go for a complete redo, greatly simplifying the overall design
and making it much more functional.

Now I'm debating whether it would be better to get a 36" gas cook top and
two wall/under-cabinet electric ovens, or a 36" gas range and a single
under-cabinet electric or a 36" dual fuel range and a single under cabinet
electric. Dual fuel seems to be awfully expensive! (With the exception of
the Kenmore Elite Pete has.)

On the plus side, the new design places the cooktop/range much closer to the
outside wall, so will probably increase the effectiveness of whatever hood I
get.
 
"Jean B." wrote:



Design genius from the mid 1960s:

http://oi54.tinypic.com/5ck0td.jpg

The oven doors are at eye level for almost all heights. I don't have to
bend over to put a heavy roast, etc., in or take out of the oven. A
back-breaking proposition for some.

The doors open up and out of the way so I can get right up close to load
or unload the oven, rather than tango around an in the way 400?F fold
down oven door. The up and away oven doors also prevent resting things
on the fold down door, for which it isn't designed. The closest I've
seen to them today, are ovens with side-hinged doors. Almost but not
quite as elegant.

The stove top can be pulled out 4" if I need room to use many large pots
or the deep-fry burner in the front-left.

When an oven is turned on, so does the fan.

The lights are oven/stove/both selectable.

When any burner or oven is turned on, a red light next to each knob
lights up.

The large front burners can be 2, 4 or 6 coil selectable for different
size pots.

The main oven has a plug in temperature probe. Dial the meat being
roasted and it'll turn off the oven when done. I have NEVER used that
feature, 1960s "done" being different than today's "done."

A "Delay On" oven timer. Maybe good for non-meat casseroles, baked
potatoes? Broken.

Also I never used the main oven rotisserie. I figured it would be a
clean-up nightmare.

Whenever I use, or even look at it, I marvel at what 45 years later (?),
is still the epitome of cooking convenience, luxury and artistic and
engineering genius.

"They don't make 'em like they used to!!!"

But most of all, thanks again to the original homeowners (1956) for
seeing it and deciding, "THAT'S KEWL!!!!!!"

Andy
 
Hi Lee! Have you watched It's complicated? I LOVE the kitchen in the movie! Big window, warm colour furniture, most importantly there is a bench in the middle of the kitchen, and a low light just above the bench. You can read by the bench and 1-2 eat there as well! I love it! I love cooking! If you are interested, come and have a look at my website and be a subscriber! I'm planing to publish a 'my kitchen' issue soon to introduce my subscribers my kitchen and kitchen utensils. myfusionkitchen.com
 
On Sun, 20 Feb 2011 17:40:52 +1100, " Bigbazza" wrote:

Stiletto's murder floors... especially if the heal is worn.

--

Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground.
 
"Storrmmee" wrote:



Lee,

All I would offer is if you're considering a granite countertop surface,
you should at least know about quartz as a possible option, if you
didn't already.

See: http://www.cambriausa.com and start at the heading "COLLECTION" and
work your way across.

Great choices and ideas.

Good luck!

Andy
 
Storrmmee wrote:


Are polyurethane finishes still legal? An oak floor, finished with
a dark-brown stain then coated with polyurethane, will not show significant
damage from cat events. Should last many years and still look good.

At the opposite end of the spectrum is wood-composite or Pergo in
a blonde finish. It will look ratty pretty fast, cats or no cats.


Steve
 
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