I owe a California Use Tax? WTF?!!!

Probably about 98 percent. At a conservative estimate.

That's the gist I was getting from the thread. I thought I'd read the whole thing, but how did the OP end up getting "caught" so that the state mailed him a notice?
 
I live in California, and I report Use Tax (primarily from Amazon purchases) on my tax return. I believe there has been a line on the form for Use Tax since 2003 or 2004.

Two informative links:

Franchise Tax Board Use Tax page

A policy briefing that was done for the Minnesota legislature on use tax collection in other states. Fascinating reading for anyone who wants to know more about Use Tax in the U.S.
 
Plus, property taxes have to be analyzed in conjunction with state and local income taxes and state and local sales taxes. Often the discrepancy between states' rates of property tax depends on the autonomy of their local governments. That being said, I have no idea if CA has artificially low property taxes or whether they compensate for this with higher income and sales tax.
One could also look at it as government spending being artificially high.
 
Probably about 98 percent. At a conservative estimate.
Probably fewer now that mores states are adding a line to the income tax forms - I think people are more afraid of entering "0" on that line than they were of not filing a separate use tax form.
 
Just so you know, states are starting to ask large internet retailers for their sales reports of individuals with a lot of purchases to collect use tax. States are broke, the populace doesn't have the stomach for "new" taxes - hey, how about we just enforce the ones on our books, starting by calling Amazon and asking for sales records......
 
I just received a letter telling me I'll have to pay a California Use Tax. I never heard of this. Evidently, I'll have to pay this Use Tax for any purchase I made out of state that did not charge me tax. So, if I bought a book from Amazon for $20, I owe (I think) $1.75.
Is this letter from the State of California? I think it would be from the "Board of Equalization" or the "Franchise Tax Board" if it's legit.

I'm skeptical that this letter is from the actual government and not some scam trying to scare you into paying them for something you can do yourself for free. As a homeowner I get something like this every month, trying to scare me into doing something or another because I own a home or need to have my taxes "corrected".
 
And if he had posted his thread in GQ, something like, "Hey, i got this letter from the California State Government about use tax, which is something i had never heard of. What is it?", i would have responded with the appropriate tone.

But he marched into the Pit, ranting and raving about something that has been law for decades, and calling California "the nuttiest fucking state," despite the fact that this tax is in no way unusual among US states.

And because it's the Pit, i decided to point out what an ignoramus he is.
Just because you can do something it doesn't necessarily mean that you should. If you'd have made that post sans the first line you'd have come across as an intelligent, knowledgeable, helpful guy. Instead you chose to preface that with a line that [del]makes you look like[/del] reveals you to be the asshole that you know you are (and which you've rather proudly laid claim to in the past yourself).

So I'm wondering why that is. The simple fact that we're in the Pit obviously isn't a sufficient reason since all sorts of people post here without acting like an asshole as a preface to answering an innocuous question, and since you often behave in an insulting manner in the board's other forums as well, although without stepping over the line that would bring a warning.

You seem to feel that the board's motto should be "Insulting ignorance since..." rather than fighting it, and I'm genuinely curious to know why. Have you always been an asspipe? Does it go back as far as you can remember? Or is it the result of a childhood social trauma that you've never been able to forget? Or a high-school or college-age one? What?

Inquiring minds want to know. (You may place your inevitable retaliatory insult toward my own mind here.)
 
It's a simple question about what was to him an unknown piece of the tax code, and it should be possible to answer that without being a putz about it.

I'll refer you to [B]mhendo[/B]'s reply, since he said exactly what I would have.

:rolleyes: You made the same claim in the other thread

Everyone else is perfectly free to go read the thread themselves and see what a craven little racist you are.

ETA: And you know what? There are plenty of racists who think that a white person who miscegenates with someone who isn't white is worse than a non-white person.

What percentage of people simply ignore them?

Not sure, other than "a lot."

Probably fewer now that mores states are adding a line to the income tax forms - I think people are more afraid of entering "0" on that line than they were of not filing a separate use tax form.

It's been on there for a while now, hasn't it? At least on the Wisconsin form, I seem to remember seeing the line when I first filed for a tax return back in high school (senior year, I think, so about ten years ago).
 
Is this letter from the State of California? I think it would be from the "Board of Equalization" or the "Franchise Tax Board" if it's legit.

I'm skeptical that this letter is from the actual government and not some scam trying to scare you into paying them for something you can do yourself for free. As a homeowner I get something like this every month, trying to scare me into doing something or another because I own a home or need to have my taxes "corrected".


It might be real- years ago, before internet shopping was so big, the NY newspapers reported that NY had sent tax agents to NJ malls to take photos of the cars with NY plates. The owners were sent letter telling them they owed NYS use taxes on anything they purchased in NJ and brought back to NY. And the brought back to NY is important- the tax isn't based on residency, it's based on where the item is used. If I buy furniture in either NY or NJ and have it delivered to my (fictional) second house in NJ, I don't owe NY any taxes even though I am a NY resident.

(That's how Leona Helmsley cheated- she had empty boxes shipped out of state so the store was not required to collect the taxes)
 
IIRC, when I lived in New York, they basically had a "close enough" version of the use tax - each year, you could pay $30 tax on out-of-state purchases, or you could document your real liability. Naturally, most people just paid the $30, which I thought was entirely reasonable.
 
Is this letter from the State of California? I think it would be from the "Board of Equalization" or the "Franchise Tax Board" if it's legit.

I'm skeptical that this letter is from the actual government and not some scam trying to scare you into paying them for something you can do yourself for free. As a homeowner I get something like this every month, trying to scare me into doing something or another because I own a home or need to have my taxes "corrected".

It's likely real. If there is any doubt, look to see who the letter is from. The letter should be from the state Board of Equalization, so if it is not then start questioning how real it is.

On the other hand, almost anything you get about property taxes is a scam. Well, sort of a scam. You can do anything those letters offer on your own for free. It requires filling out some paperwork and doing some research, all in all maybe 3 hours of your own time. Also, if all you want is a re-appraisal of your property by the county assessors office, the county of Los Angeles is doing (did already this year) those automatically, and if you don't live in LA county your local county may well be doing so too.
 
Everyone else is perfectly free to go read the thread themselves and see what a craven little racist you are.

You kept saying that in the other thread and you came up with squat. So, why don't you go to that thread and create a post there that uses MY words to prove my racism? That way when people go over there you'll have made it easy for them to come to the same "conclusion" you have.

But maybe the problem is that my racism exists in your head, and not in reality. I repeat:

Shot From Guns said:
I can't dig into their slimy little minds to prove anything--I can only offer conjecture. And the main difference seems to be that these aren't (to them) Europeans.

Have fun. :D
 
But maybe the problem is that my racism exists in your head, and not in reality. I repeat:
Shot From Guns said:
I can't dig into their slimy little minds to prove anything--I can only offer conjecture. And the main difference seems to be that these aren't (to them) Europeans.

Of course you don't come out and say you hate niggers, or all Arabs should be lynched. You don't like to think of yourself as a racist, after all. But your disgusting positions betray you. You think that we should treat all Muslims as some kind of second-class citizens (without ever actually getting specific, despite multiple requests); you think that Arizona has the right idea about how to deal with immigration (make all the Mexican-looking ones carry papers).

You're a racist, and anyone with two neurons to rub together can see it.
 
Is this letter from the State of California? I think it would be from the "Board of Equalization" or the "Franchise Tax Board" if it's legit.

I'm skeptical that this letter is from the actual government and not some scam trying to scare you into paying them for something you can do yourself for free. As a homeowner I get something like this every month, trying to scare me into doing something or another because I own a home or need to have my taxes "corrected".

It's from the State Board of Equalization, P.O. Box 942879 (boe.ca.gov).
 
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V.bis, good to see you're still around! Still showering with dishwashing soap?

;)
 
Why? He's right. That's the #1 thing I tell my clients: if you've got the IRS on your back, that's easy enough to deal with - the FTB will straight murder your ass and don't feel sorry about it. They are vicious and aren't governed by nearly as much regulation as the IRS, so they get away with a ton of stuff the IRS couldn't dream of doing.

I'm not kidding: the FTB will ruin your life.
Which is the reason I report and pay use tax on my Amazon purchases.
 
If people really did pay use taxes then internet purchases would suddenly be a lot less attractive. I mean, a big part of the allure of online shopping is no sales tax (which the shipping costs tend to make up for).

However, you are still supposed to pay sales tax. It's just the Internet companies are not required to collect it for them.

I have been to many city/county/state government meetings and such over the past several years.

NOTHING seems to piss them off and send them rabid dog barking bitching and whining than the Internet and they not getting their cut of the pie.

I mean, whenever it comes up it starts a non-stop bitch session. By GOD man...they are ENTITLED to that money and they are being CHEATED out of it!

The idea that government is entitled to the money is one of the only things stopping me from coming back liberal. The idea that government is ENTITLED to the money pisses me off to no end and the fact that I would absoultely LOVE having had the 'cuts' they've had over the past few years...because to them a 'cut' doesn't mean what it means to normal folks. According to them, my salary over the past 2 years has been 'cut' several percent because last year my salary stayed the same and this year my salary only went up a couple percent when it should have gone up higher.
 
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