I-Doser

In five years when you are jonesing for some crack and trying to get us to paypal you money, I'll bring this thread up..."Marijuana is a gateway drug"
 
I'll take d) none of the above. If I want to feel content, I'll just sit down and feel content. I don't need to search a database for a "dose" of tones to feel a basic human emotion. I'll do it the au natural way.
 
Ok, well as a closet avid 'experimenter' Im currently dry of all things good, and know I will not sleep today. I shall now try this thang. Not sure what to do other than go google it for my next step.

Now I can say. Its ***. Tried LSD. Tried very hard too, didnt feel a damn thing.
 
I attended a lecture on placebo not too long ago in fact. It was on a friday evening which shows my dedication. ;)

It is as Dali writes. The company who makes I-Doser do what they can in order plant expectancy in their customers so there's an element of manipulation to this. The required training is also perfect for training a placebo response. Of course there might be a real physiological effect that is caused by the bi-naural beats, but either way you get a placebo effect on top of that and your experience comes from either placebo or the placebo and the actual effect of I-Doser put together. The point is; either way it's there - whether it's all or just part of it.

Something I didn't think of before is that it could have a meditative effect as well. By relaxing and focusing ones thoughts on something, people slip into other levels of consciousness. This is often accompanied by feelings of relaxation, clearness of mind, feeling heavy or almost like your body is not there, comfort, waves of tingly feelings and so on. You also get better at meditation with training which is consistent with I-Doser and how it should be used. A rough way to put oneself in a meditative state may for example be to close ones eyes and count backwarRAB from 100.

If you close your eyes and focus on a sound, that might have a similar effect so then the I-Doser experience could be caused by at least three things; placebo, meditation and binaural beats.
 
I can only repeat myself 400 times... like most people I've used pot. I will also repeat this for the 400th time... you have to PRACTICE!

And Freebase, it was a direct response to what you posted. I said what I think it proves to me in the post. And please don't be a smart ass. Yes you feel something when you sleep... like most human beings I regularly sleep too. I wouldn't have said anything if I felt nothing - this was something out of the ordinary.
 
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Ditto.



I'm not arguing against the validity of brainwave entrainment. I'm just saying that if you're (generally speaking) comparing it to the effect of drugs, you're retarded.
People are taking this binaural effect and manipulating it, wrongly comparing it to drugs, and then getting people to pay for it.

That's also retarded.

So yea, I'm calling I-Doser retarded. Because when you really look at it, that's exactly what I-Doser is.
This has nothing to do with the very interesting and inspiring thing (binaural effect) that I-Doser takes advantage of and screws with while all the smiling kiddies pay for it and allow it to keep happening.

I'm not trying to rag on you, Conan. I'm just saying it's a good idea to analyse things before you jump head first into them and become a diehard supporter/believer.

Last time that happened to a significant extent, we ended up with religion.
 
I believe it does make you feel things. I've tried a few doses. Felt pretty "drunk" after an alcohol dose. It could have been placebo but I did they cocaine one and was like well I don't feel much. This is bull****. Then I tried the alcohol one and was giggly as **** afterwarRAB and a little dizzy. I feel like a fool, but maybe it did work for me. The placebo I'm sure is there and I bet thats where half the people get great feelings from... but if they called it "I-Doser: Your Nuraber One Placebo Listening Thingy!" They would lose sales. Not only from that incredibly stupid name, but also because for a placebo to work people have to believe it will emulate the real thing.
Or something like that.
So yeah, I think it works.
If you believe.

It's like the santa clause of the drug world.
 
No he thinks he isn't reliable, and that's fine :) He thinks he isn't because it sounRAB as if he is biased, and not looking at it skeptically which people in the field of science should do. It makes sense and isn't complex. I could have reworded it.. i'm sorry?
 
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