I-Doser

Yeah I'm skeptical about anything charging as much as they are. The "only authorized guide." I'm extremely interested in trying it, just not in paying for it.
 
No I understand, I know scientists are meant to have an inherent skepticism. That's all fine and well, if you don't like him as a source as well, that's fine too. I am more interested in binaural beats than the actual program or the founder. I am used to skeptics, trust me. (I believe in ghosts... is that a no-no?) I just find the program extremely fascinating because I have had results, and no, I am not actively "searching" for one. The "doses", as they are called, are not all drugs. I have tried sleep ones, which some worked and some were too sensitive for me. There are ones too that have no description other than
"unexplainable". So I can't fake any results because it is still new to me and I still don't know what is going to happen.
 
haven't tried that one either. I'm not interested in the drug ones, I am more interested in the weird ones that have strange descriptions like Black Sunshine, White Crosses and A-Borab
 
I would like to apologize for my previous posts up there... but I mean it kind of proves to me in retrospect that I was definetly buzzed.



A placebo only works if the subject has absolute faith in what he's trying. And let me tell you I called bull on this waaay before I tried it, I did it believing it was a placebo, went into it calling bull, and now that I've done three or four doses I can tell you that I don't think it's a placebo but even if it somehow is... I felt fantastic and that's all that matters.

And after doing a little research into Binaural Beats I don't think it's all that far fetched.
 
Hahaha! "Do AndroiRAB Dream of Electric Sheep?". Mood organ. Anyone?

I'm not all that concerned about whether it works or not- having technology create our feelings, I'll pass... :)
 
and did you do what you were supposed to? No distractions, turn everything off around you, no light, lay down, and most importantly, a good pair of overhead headphones
 
I listened to the "Marijuana" one not long ago. Found it online for free from some site. Followed the long, intensive list of instructions that you must absolutely follow to the T in order for it to work..... hmm..

Anyway, it was a binaural beat from 2 sine waves at their respective settings, and either white noise or pink noise. That's it. You could set that up in around 5 minutes with a simple synthesizer downloaded from KVR.
I was um, open minded about it, but the most I got was an itch on my foot for about 2 seconRAB that, decidedly, was unrelated.

I read about the warning that "some people may be immune". Well, heh, that's a convenient disclaimer...
I don't want to go into placebo related discussion in this post, but put 2 and 2 together and it's pretty easy to figure out.

But yea, shady marketing schemes aside, if you want to believe you're high, at least don't pay for it unless you're buying something that actually, chemically, physically, makes you high.
 
I just tried the pot one and it didn't do **** for me. I don't know if the one I downloaded was legit but it just felt like the same kind of noise as heard when having an MRI scan or something. Of course when you lie down and close your eyes and relax your body you are going to experience a heavy jaw, or a relaxed sense, or spacing out more so than if you were sitting at your computer.

I personally think it'd have a placebo effect, the mind is a very powerful thing, and thinking about certain feelings/sensations can certainly trigger them.

And probably the people who are attracted to these I-Doses are people who haven't actually tried the real drug or had access to it (which is why they are seeking out i-doses) and so don't really know what to compare it to anyway.
 
Sources? Alright. This comes straight out of the I-Doser guide, written by the man who created the concept. This section is "how it works", if you want the next section which is about how it affects you, I can post that as well. As for some people and it not working, of course it doesn't work on everyone! Tylenol has never had an effect on me, regardless of how much I would like it to. Another thing is, the brain is sensitive to any outside stimuli. So even light getting into your eyes can effect it. The more you can focus and have no disruptions, the more the beat will have an effect. And some people get no effect at all, even IF they do it right. It's different for everyone, just as everything is.

"How it Works

When signals of two different frequencies are presented, one to each ear, the brain detects phase differences between these signals. 'Under natural circumstances a detected phase difference would provide directional information. The brain processes this anomalous information differently when these phase differences are heard with stereo heaphones or speakers. A perceptual integration of the two signals takes place, producing the sensation of a third "beat" frequency. The difference between the signals waxes and wanes as the two different input frequencies mesh in and out of phase. As a result of these constantly increasing and decreasing differences, an amplitude-modulated standing wave - the binaural beat - is heard. The binaural beat is percieved as a fluctuating rhythm at the frequency of the difference between the two auditory inputs. Evidence suggests that the binaural beats are generated in the brainstem's superior olivary nucles, the first site of contralateral integration in the auditory system (Oster, 1973). Studies also suggest that the frequency-following response originates from the inferior colliculus (Smith, Marsh, & Brown, 1975)" (Owens & Atwater, 1995). This activity is conducted to the cortex where it can be recorded by scalp electrodes. "

Oster, G. (1973). Auditory beats in the brain. Scientific American
Owens, J.E. & Atwater, F.H. (1995). EEG correlates of an induced altered state of consciousness: "mind awake/body asleep".
Smith, J. C., Marsh, J. T., & Brown, W. S. (1975). Far-field recorded frequency-following responses: Evidence for the locus of brainstem sources. Electroencephalography and Clinical Neurophysiology
 
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