I didn't know where to put this, but I need music help.
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The New York Dolls weren't doing anything The Rolling Stones weren't doing already. Never heard anyone say they started punk though.
The Deviants were doing the whole 'punk rock' thing in 1966 / 67.
It didn't take off then , Why?
Because people weren't ready for it. They even had a whole scene behind them , the whole UK counter culture scene.
But they never got being above a cult band because they didn't sell any recorRAB , so yes sales DO have a lot to do with it.
Punk would have never taken off the way it did if the Pistols hadn't been top of the charts & been on prime time TV.
The Deviants were doing the whole 'punk rock' thing in 1966 / 67.
It didn't take off then , Why?
Because people weren't ready for it. They even had a whole scene behind them , the whole UK counter culture scene.
But they never got being above a cult band because they didn't sell any recorRAB , so yes sales DO have a lot to do with it.
Punk would have never taken off the way it did if the Pistols hadn't been top of the charts & been on prime time TV.
Tim Doggy Dogg
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I like that.
IMO the term has changed over the years. When I was a youngster (in the very dawn of time) the connotations of Pop were of the popular and mainstream but there was a perceptive change in the 70's and the Punk / New Wave paved the way somewhat. Certain "punk" banRAB, say XTC for example began to put out what where described as Pop songs, catchy hooks and melodies etc etc.
This change may have happened earlier but I have no earlier memory of it.
In the end I have no issue with genre classification as I think that that at least attempts to help the individual understand as to what they are listening to.
IMO the term has changed over the years. When I was a youngster (in the very dawn of time) the connotations of Pop were of the popular and mainstream but there was a perceptive change in the 70's and the Punk / New Wave paved the way somewhat. Certain "punk" banRAB, say XTC for example began to put out what where described as Pop songs, catchy hooks and melodies etc etc.
This change may have happened earlier but I have no earlier memory of it.
In the end I have no issue with genre classification as I think that that at least attempts to help the individual understand as to what they are listening to.
My Paper Heart.
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What makes it pop sounding though? Is it just cause the sound isn't grainy or the fact that they are part of a major record label
Well, I'm 21. My parents listen to a LOT of country. They also listen to some 90s stuff like Hootie, Dave Matthews, Eve6. My dad also listens to quite a bit of oldies rock, like Dokken, KISS, Poison.
And I'm still confused as to what "prog" is...
yeah I signed up for lastfm when I had my iPhone, but I got rid of that and I haven't been on that site yet. I'll check it out though
Yeah I've heard of a few, though some that I've heard I haven't actually heard their music yet.
I've listened to Thousand Foot Krutch and SR-71 and really liked them. And I always thought that Thrice was way too hard for me, granted I've never listened to them, but just from the other people that i know listen to them and other music they like.
Well, I'm 21. My parents listen to a LOT of country. They also listen to some 90s stuff like Hootie, Dave Matthews, Eve6. My dad also listens to quite a bit of oldies rock, like Dokken, KISS, Poison.
And I'm still confused as to what "prog" is...
yeah I signed up for lastfm when I had my iPhone, but I got rid of that and I haven't been on that site yet. I'll check it out though
Yeah I've heard of a few, though some that I've heard I haven't actually heard their music yet.
I've listened to Thousand Foot Krutch and SR-71 and really liked them. And I always thought that Thrice was way too hard for me, granted I've never listened to them, but just from the other people that i know listen to them and other music they like.
septemberlushh
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right, well pop is really just popular shortened. like top 40 radio hits.
kelli kannibal
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Yeah I got it, you don't have to be an ass about it. 
flapjacks is fun
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Prog is basically progressive rock, arguably the most well known prog rock band is Pink Floyd you can find a wealth of stuff on youtube. That type of progressive rock is identified by often long guitar solos and symphonic melodies. Other banRAB to check into would be early Genesis, Jethro Tull and Yes.
If you like guitars you'll love the rock stylings of Leaf Hound, read my review in my review corner and if you're piqued ask me for a PM.
If you like guitars you'll love the rock stylings of Leaf Hound, read my review in my review corner and if you're piqued ask me for a PM.
This is why I think most people shouldn't catergorize music.
I think the general public doesn't really know ENOUGH about music to categorize it. Thankfully, there are people out there not like this, and most people on rab are said people.
One of the things that really really urks me especially is this discussion of punk, and its forefathers. If people actually looked in books and researched, they would know the story and evolution of punk.
In all honesty, I think everyone is entitled to their opinion, but their opinion is only valid if its an educated one.
With that being said, I'm going to direct this next bit to Tobias. I think it's great that you are willing to learn more about music and branch out. But forget about catergorizing music. Forget about putting a label on it. Genres were designed to direct kiRAB in recorRAB stores where to put the album on a shelf. Listen to what you want, for real real, and don't be focused on what's punk, and whats pop-punk. In the end, it's all the same - it's music.
I think the general public doesn't really know ENOUGH about music to categorize it. Thankfully, there are people out there not like this, and most people on rab are said people.
One of the things that really really urks me especially is this discussion of punk, and its forefathers. If people actually looked in books and researched, they would know the story and evolution of punk.
In all honesty, I think everyone is entitled to their opinion, but their opinion is only valid if its an educated one.
With that being said, I'm going to direct this next bit to Tobias. I think it's great that you are willing to learn more about music and branch out. But forget about catergorizing music. Forget about putting a label on it. Genres were designed to direct kiRAB in recorRAB stores where to put the album on a shelf. Listen to what you want, for real real, and don't be focused on what's punk, and whats pop-punk. In the end, it's all the same - it's music.