How safe is downloading

Oh no...webe123, I'm so sorry to break it to you...but...Lokitorrents was never raided lol...I think you stuck with the old old out-dated story. The owner gave it up, nothing happened, it was a scheme that worked out in the end...and they ended up with over $30,000...
 
has anyone encountered ISP providers actually spying on what you are downloading?

does anyone know the legalities in uk? i heard that you can get prosecuted for uploading but not downloading, is that true?

i heard that newsdemon are looking into ssl for their systems, anyone know if this is true or just a rumour?

thanks guys
 
link2009 said:
Oh no...webe123, I'm so sorry to break it to you...but...Lokitorrents was never raided lol...I think you stuck with the old old out-dated story. The owner gave it up, nothing happened, it was a scheme that worked out in the end...and they ended up with over $30,000...
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Do you have any links to prove what you are saying?? The last I heard, it WAS raided by the FBI and the owner was in serious legal trouble. All I could find was this Slyck link about their legal troubles, so if you have a link stating otherwise...post it!

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8712&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It said they had to raise 30,000.00 a month for legal bills....it does not say a thing in the forums about it being fake...so where is your proof?

If it was a FAKE STORY... it sure fooled a LOT of people.

And you forget something... even IF the Loki torrent story was not true, the Elite torrents story certianly was true!

http://recordingindustryvspeople.blogspot.com/2006/11/shawn-hogan-motion-to-dismiss-based-on.html

So as I said in the FIRST PLACE....torrents are NOT AS SAFE AS NEWSGROUPS! Period.
 
webe123 said:
Do you have any links to prove what you are saying?? The last I heard, it WAS raided by the FBI and the owner was in serious legal trouble. All I could find was this Slyck link about their legal troubles, so if you have a link stating otherwise...post it!

http://www.slyck.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8712&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

It said they had to raise 30,000.00 a month for legal bills....it does not say a thing in the forums about it being fake...so where is your proof?

If it was a FAKE STORY... it sure fooled a LOT of people.
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The true fate of Loki torrents is still unknown.
I myself still believe Weber pocketed the cash.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LokiTorrent
 
Any unencrypted internet traffic can be intercepted by a third party, i.e. your internet provider. Although it is not widely practiced, and is arguably an invasion of privacy.

If you are super paranoid type, the use of SSL can set your worried mind at ease. For the most part it is an unnecessary add on that can bring an Usenet provider a extra source of income (Giganews) or a selling point to get ahead of the competition (Usenetserver).
 
really, i read a few posts that suggested the only thing ssl encryption does is dtop isp throttling speeds. i am with newsdemon and they don't offer this service. so your saying that if i am just downloading my isp could see what i am downloading, is that right??
 
A_T said:
SSL is more that that. Many ISPs will throttle traffic on usenet. SSL will encrypt your traffic and in many cases get round ISP restrictions.
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Yep, mentioned that.

Broken said:
SSL encryption is only necessary if you have had problems with your ISP in the past. SSL is to hide what you are doing from them, for whatever reason. Whither it is because they are using some type of traffic shaping tools, or you just don't trust them to keep their noses out of your business. In all reality, most don't care.
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If they were so inclined.
It's rare. They are more concerned with the amount of bandwidth you use, not what it is used for.


I was making note to the fact that any unencrypted internet traffic can be intercepted.
 
djkemp1 said:
has anyone encountered ISP providers actually spying on what you are downloading?

does anyone know the legalities in uk? i heard that you can get prosecuted for uploading but not downloading, is that true?

thanks guys
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just wondered if anyone knew the answers to some of these questions?
 
Broken said:
The true fate of Loki torrents is still unknown.
I myself still believe Weber pocketed the cash.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LokiTorrent
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From the link you gave:
A couple of weeks after the shutdown, news hit that the news of the MPAA lawsuit was not a hoax after all[15][16], citing court documents[17][18], complete with United States District Judge David C. Godbey's signature as proof.

That takes care of it NOT being a FAKE story!

As to the funds and where they went?

However, to this day, it is unknown whether Webber kept the member-donated funds for himself, or if all of the money was taken by the MPAA.

and the Elite Torrents story definately is TRUE!

So as I said before, private Bit Torrent sites are not as safe as some want to believe they are.
 
djkemp1 said:
you say your friend got an email, but how would paramount know he was downloading films etc as i didn't think they could see what u download?
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He never said it was newsgroups that he was downloading from....He never said WHAT program he got the film from. So you may be reading too much into what he said.


It was probably Bit Torrent or some other p2p app...those are REAL EASY to get an IP from!
 
djkemp1 said:
just wondered if anyone knew the answers to some of these questions?
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Comcast, a large US ISP did some spying not not long ago.
Link Comcast spying




I can't advise you on UK law.
In the US the RIAA/MPAA will not file a case against you in civil court because it would hard to prove any significant losses on their part from an individual downloading only. Plus if you are not sharing, they have no reason or way to obtain your information in the first place.

But that isn't to say that downloading copyrighted material isn't illegal. It's conspiracy to commit criminal copyright infringement (newer law) . But the MPAA/RIAA can't charge you with a crime in criminal court. It'd have to be the FBI, and this whole mess is something they have stayed out of but at the top levels (topsites).
 
Downloading IS safer than uploading, and I very have been posting for a number of years. Can anybody offer some examples (IE horror stories) otherwise, to give a more well rounded view?? -The G Man
 
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