How many times did we hear "if you like your current coverage you will keep it"

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btw, the health insurance through my employer skyrocketed and the only affordable option for us was Kaiser - so we had to make the switch.

This is old news to me.
 
That essentially means that all medical school and college ought to be a right also. You can't expect people to pay 250k in medical school and then work for government salaries
 
But I guess I would like doctors to have as much dedication as our public school teachers do. That seems to be going well.


A few great teachers that do it for the love and a bunch of shitty ones that do it because it is a job

A few great doctors that do it for the love and a bunch of shitty ones that do it because it is a job
 
Should have been a strong public option, which the majority of Americans wanted. Forcing people to pay private corporations for health insurance
 
How can something be a right, when it requires the knowledge and effort of someone else in order to facilitate it?

A right to healthcare is predicated on a doctor being capable of doing it for you. Would it still be a natural right if no one were left to give you the free healthcare you yearned for? Is God himself going to come down and give you a free brain implant operation if there were no doctors?
 
this is the fall back answer for when regulation doesn't work, 'We just need more government, that is the answer'. It is a bunch of crap.
 
Didn't mean to bait you in particular. That statement you made goes any number of ways for interpretation.
 
Good point, this is the MAIN REASON for why countries like france can get away with paying their doctors 50k a year.
 
It's a "right", afterall. Right? That means that a patient has the right to be treated by a doctor even if it costs the doctor money to treat the patient with no hopes of compensation.

It's SORELY obvious that anyone arguing that has clearly not thought things through.

In a situation like on the tv show "Lost" where you have one doctor and limited medical supplies, anyone injured gets treated pretty equally because there are no factors like "malpractice insurance" or "compensation" because everyone on a deserted island lacks any sort of currency or choice in the matter. But in a country with a living economy you can't just force doctors to perform surgeries or medical treatments.


If doctors had all of their costs covered (such as $100k+/year malpractice insurance policies) and the costs for all of their offices and supplies, and if that were all covered by taxpayer dollars, then yeah, sure, healthcare is a right for the taxpayer who helps to pay for all of that.

If you pay for something, you have a right to receive it. Right? Pretty standard.

But to say that in our current economy healthcare is a "right" is completely false. You are only entitled to what you pay for.
 
I think you're taking my expression too far, or perhaps you don't understand what I'm saying.

Anything that goes wrong with the policies enacted will be ultimately the responsibility of the people for having elected the officials who wrote the bills.
 
and while they may have better medical COVERAGE do they have better medical CARE and EXPERTISE ?
 
Tha majority of americans voted for Bush and Obama, so how about fuck no.

The public option we have- medicare- is a joke. The public option other industrialized nations have is bankrupting them.

The government can't get shit right, yet you're arguing we should let them handle healthcar? Iraq, Afghanistan, the post office, medicare, TARP, GM/Chrysler, Fannie/Freddie..... Failure, after failure, after failure, after failure, after failure, after failure, after failure..... and you're stone cold convinced letting them run shit is viable?

The fuck is wrong with you people?
 
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