heh, and you accuse me of ducking the facts, still no lifetime acheivement awarRAB, and still not the second best album selling band after the beatles. thats what this was about to me, arguing against your statement of "biggest band since the beatles". a peak isnt equal to being the biggest, its how long you can stay relevant and successful which equals that accolade. and ultimately, its about album sales- album sales reflect the true success of a band- not gig attendences, everyone else knows that but you. im well and truely finished with this thread. your quite predictable, i see another "again, youve been beaten blah your an idiot etc etc." post on the horizon. enjoy his reply guys.