Might get better once everyone calms down. Winkleman in particular, at times she was positively rambling and what seemed to start off as a series of discussion points with her colleague just deteriorated into a set of random statements. I guess a live show is difficult for anyone but a base personality of serious + nerves can pull it off, ditsy + nerves can't.
However the interview if you can call it that with Carey Mulligan and pals was nothing but embarrassing.