FDR's Economic Bill Of Rights

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Roosevelt's remedy was to create an "economic bill of rights" which would guarantee:

A job with a living wage
Freedom from unfair competition and monopolies
A home
Medical care
Education
Social security


Would you be for or against implementing a similar economic bill of rights?
 
Against.

All men are CREATED equal. How they succeed of fail after that, that is up to their own doing.
 
I'm not trying to be nitpicky. You and I just aren't in agreement. It happens sometimes.


Teddy and Wilson were both prior to FDR and both of them gave giant pushes as well. In large part, FDR utilized what was already established by previous administrations, legislation, and judiciary doctrine.
 
I was going to bring up Bismarck, Teddy Roosevelt, Woodrow Wilson, John Dewey, and a hundred other names but I decided to let it slide.
 
This is all well and good, but if you want to get truly nitpicky, the great 'Founder' of welfare-statism the world over is Otto von Bismarck.
 
A whole long list of entitlements is what that is.

Fuck him and fuck that welfare state bullshit he started.
 
This is why you and others who think like you are a danger to the rest of the people.
 
A government cannot grant you a "right".

It can only try to take them away from you.
 
Government does not have the capacity to grant those things to everyone while maintaining the current quality of those things.

No reasonable person would disagree that if government could give everyone those things while maintaining the quality and way of life, we should. The problem is that government cannot grant those things to everyone while maintaining quality and way of life.

Government can create the framework so that people who want those institutions can take part in them -- the problem is that often government is unwilling to do the necessary things.

For a good job with a living wage - Cut down on the costs businesses incur to hire people -- namely the payroll tax.
For freedom from unfair competition and monopolies - 99% of monopolies occur from government action and help. Allow for honest competition and the threat of monopolies ceases.
For a home - If you cut costs associated with hiring, people will be able to afford homes.
Medical care- Allow for competition across state lines, cut bureaucracy and allow people to get hired, and medical care isn't an issue.
Education - I grew up poor and went to a 35k/year private college with no assistance from family. Pardon me if I call bullshit on people who say college is unaffordable.
Social Security - An unsustainable system that needs reform if people currently paying in are ever going to see benefits. Structural changes need to occur.
 
Fair enough, but he didn't do anything to push us toward welfare statism (which is what Emfuser was going for).

I'd say that Teddy Roosevelt was the first to do that in any significant fashion. There's obviously honorable mention to be made about the Reconstruction as well, but it didn't push us toward welfare statism; it simply made it easier to accomplish at a national level.
 
This is not a bill of "rights." Amendments 1 - 10 in the U.S. Constitution is a bill of rights. This is a list of government entitlements aimed at people that are either too stupid or too lazy to go out and earn these things themselves.

The problem with all of these wonderful "rights" is that they all cost money. Jobs with decent wages don't grow on trees, homes don't build themselves, teachers and doctors don't work for free.
 
this is so utterly moronic, I don't even have the words to describe how you should painfully kill yourself
 
the guaranteed job with a living wage may be ok if welfare is eliminated. pay people to cut grass, pick up litter, anything. this would help the economy more than giving a trillion dollars to banks and big business that outsource work anyways
 
all of that would be straight up communism. how else would a government grant all of that to its citizens?

hilarious
 
I would disagree. John Dewey imported Bismarck into America and great influenced the entire Progressive Movement, including Teddy. I would agree that Teddy literally implemented the beginnings of welfarism, but he would have been unable to do so without Dewey and Bismarck.
 
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