energy reform coming as an amendment

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more on it.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/06/07/bp-the-end-of-cap-trade/?xid=rss-topstories
 
I'm talking about photoelectric cells. Since, after all, he suggested we implement solar rooves.

Follow the discussion or GTFO.
 
The real transition hasn't even started yet. What percentage of US power production is considered renewable clean energy? I know only 1.2% is from wind.
 
Peak oil came in the 70s for the US. We need to ditch oil and coal and go to nuclear and renewables.
 
We need a slow transition off of them though. Not legislation that will jack up prices so high that people can no longer afford it and are then forced to go with the alternative that isn't ready to service as many people as necessary and will probably cost even more than the jacked up prices of the ones we are transitioning off of because it's not ready yet.
 
So what? That's proof that they dont barely do us any good in the long run?

I feel like I'm talking to 5 year olds here.
 
This method hasn't been working for 30 some years now. It's time to rip it off like a band aid. If gas cost $10 a gallon people would surely adapt fast
 
Yet the presidents have been talking about it for decades. Carter was the only one who really started the transition and then Reagan did away with it
 
It's funny how people keep pushing for renewable energy but then you run into issues like this. I don't know how true that one is, but I know in Mass they were in favor to build a windfarm what I believe was 10 to 20 miles out sea off Nantucket and the rich snobs complained that it ruined their view of the ocean when the turbines would have infact been little specs in the distance. So it was eventually voted down and now Obama is apparently approving it again.
 
You're fucking joking right?

The infrastructure is not in place for a sudden transition. If you try to "rip it off like a band aid" you are going to leave a vast majority of the country struggling to build that infrastructure as fast as possible because the alternative is people being unable to afford electricity and gas and a major crippling of the economy like we have never seen. The price of everything will skyrocket. What does the increased cost of energy do for the building of new infrastructure for clean energy production?


You seem to be trying to oversimplify the transition by leaving out all the consequences.
 
Those solar panels were practically useless. Technology has come a long way since then. Even though it is still not useful in applications that require large amounts of power it has uses on a smaller scale. From supplementing a home and powering a shed to maybe even just powering a well pump so you can still have water if the power goes out.
 
Dude, the freight shipping industry and airlines were and in some cases still are struggling to stay afloat when diesel was hitting $4+ a gallon. At $10 they'd completely fold, not to mention the impacts that those costs would have on petroleum based products. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not be paying $8 for a gallon of milk
 
Once again, good for certain applications, not a solution to our energy needs with current technology. Another downfall of photoelectric powercells is the massive battery banks needed.
 
It is expensive and has limited use right now but it's potential in the home generation market is huge. As efficiency of solar cells increases and costs go down it will become a more viable option for lots of people who are being swamped by the constant increases in energy prices. I'd love to have a supplemental solar system for my home but the cost right now is ridiculous because the market for home systems is so small. Another problem is that there are very few companies selling and installing these systems. The average person has no idea what they need to buy or how to do it themselves. There is a severe lack of education here that the government could help remedy.
 
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