Does anyone agreee that there is too much music out there?

I believe it's a control issue. For example, from what I've read on this forum about punk, it used to be a rebellion sort of deal. Now it has rules, and is a style, and safety-pined shirts are sold at stores for 50$ more then they should be, and the lyrics of certain "punk" banRAB today reflect that in their pointlessness. So, where exactly did the rebellion go? Wait, where did any of the provocative music on the radio go? Not only is just Bikini Kill not being given access to the majority, with their awful feminist views, but also Nick Cave isn't on the radio- too much talent, too twisted, it's just not fit for the public. Or... is it? Is the public really identifying with, relating to, being inspired by this bubblegum "everyone is happy" Jonas brother crap, or is that just what the media puts out there so kiRAB grow-up thinking that's just how music is. Oh wait, did I say thinking, I meant buying.

Anyway, it isn't that hard of an obstacle to overcome. It's not like some gigantic conspiracy, people just move more towarRAB controlled things in general. But there is another group, rabroad, the valiant Savior of all that is controversial! The open-minded forum that will one day fulfill it's destiny and sew the media for massive wide-spread demoralization and general crimes against society.
 
Taking this quote in isolation you give me the impression that you think that "mass market crap" having an "influence" is some new phenomenon. Sorry readers but this type of reaction by the musical elite to what they feel that the masses should listen to is nothing new.

The history of music is littered with those that think that the masses have no idea. Elitism towarRAB the popular was around when Strauss was a boy. And that can be what ever Strauss you want it to be.:). When I was a young bloke T Rex where trashed by Led Zap Fans. I heard statements like Slade could not play their instruments. "They are only in it for the money" was, and may still be for all I know, a common mantra against the Top Of the Pops artistes. That one has particularly made me laugh over the years. "They are only in it for the money:rolleyes:". There have certainly been some artists in this world who were not interested in making money for their art but the reality is that the vast majority of artists that can make a living out of it would rather do that than have a job on a production line making tin cans for a living for not much an hour. As to top line artists who are popular with the musical elites it never ceases to amaze me that they are defended because of their art with out the defenders getting stuck into them for releasing countless "best of" etc style albums. Want an example? all music list 28 Led Zeppelin compilations to 9 official studio releases. So saying that radio stations "shoved down the throats of most young people" is not much different to me than the fact that record companies such as Zeps can con the dosh out of the pocket of the "elites" that are Zep fans.


I find debates like this a waste of time. Just listen and enjoy. Who cares how much they sell or how much radio time they get. You either like it or you don't. That is what aesthetic values are all about.
 
I think he meant it literally, in the sense of, there's so many people trying to make a living at this who can't really do anything else even remotely productive that if you CAN do something else remotely productive, go do it, and don't make it harder for the rest of us...

This is not specifically my own attitude. But then, you don't see me trying to be a carpenter. I know where my strengths are at.
 
It's funny but I feel like it's pretty much the opposite. All those classic rock guys get held up as the goRAB in the pantheon of rock n roll while the punk and post-punk musicians are kind of neglected.

Meh. I bet a lot of the difference in our perception probably comes from our difference in age too. I grew up in a time when those 70s guys were totally worshipped, but maybe when you were growing up the punks were getting more worship.
 
Going underground is a good way to find effing great music
Zune's pimpin sweet Mix View feature is a prudddy decent way to find music, the Social is nice too
 
The industry has always been just that, an industry. It is a business and so those involved with it are seeking money. They released what was marketable at the time, as do industries now. Just because you found the marketable music of whatever era more likeable than the marketable music of today doesn't mean it wasn't the same crap. You'd be naive to think Pink Floyd weren't busy wondering about what to wear at their performances or how to part their hair. It was all just as prefabricated as today's. Besides, there were plenty of great banRAB from back in the day that we haven't heard and probably never will. Just like today there are great artists you've never heard.
 
I disagree with you:

There will never be too much music, for it might damn well be one of the huge and crucial elements to the next evolution, my friend. Sure, the music industry is waist-deep in creeps that are trying to SELL SELL SELL. This, in no way, should keep the a truly passionate listener from finding what he really likes. I agree with blue - you have to know where to look, and just from being here (rab) for a few days, I can already tell you this is more than a legit place to find good music. Why? Because a lot of these individuals here actually care and take pride in what they listen to. Some of these guys (and girls) are just straight up music fienRAB who are not only open to all types of music but to sharing it with strangers and cheeeeeses christ, I've not seen something more beautiful in ages. :) With that being said, now is a good time to face my hopeless addiction to rab. Hi, my name is Cathy and I'm addicted to music. :hphones:

Getting back on topic, we mildly dabbled on the topic of money corrupting musicians in the Rock/Metal forum and mr. dave proved a great point: just because a musician is rewarded with money (in some cases), does not discredit him as a talented musician. We all dog on the ones that "sell-out", but honestly, don't you want that for a band you really dig to sell albums? In SOME cases, won't this mean more money to future albums by a band you love? Let's be real though - in most cases, the ones who really do sell out don't deserve a goddamn bit of it and the ones who truly work hard for music's sake, get meteoric, superficial reviews in yet another ****ty mag.

Albeit this unavoidable corruption in the music industry today, we can't let the mainstreamers take over (and in my opinion, we have not). Those of us who have a truly deep connection with music are way too ****ing strong to let Nickleback and the goddamned Jonas Brothers keep us from finding music that makes a difference. Lastly, if you're looking for some good tunes, browse around rab. I guarantee you'll find it.
 
My Goodness!! It has taken me ages to read through all of your posts...

Ok, you are a mixed bunch as to whether or not there is too much music out there...

Well while I was away, this conversation took place a few times during my holiday with a fellow musician and his view was slightly different. He said that he feels that there is way too much thought going into music by individuals and not enough guys who happen to be frienRAB just jamming. (Individuals are making music more so than banRAB coming together to find their sound jamming, then making music.) He quoted something that he thinks was said by one of The Beatles, which was, 'we jam together until we have something that sounRAB familiar and then we know we have a song' I don't know the truth of that but my friend does have a point.

The commercial pop music has been based on similar things throughout the ages;- good looks, sex, image and catchy music. The only thing that has gone wrong with this kind of music over the years is that from the early '80's it has been getting progressively worse.

The guitar banRAB and iconic figures of the the bygone era's are still playing a big influence in what modern music has produced. New banRAB who's music has lent their sound to, is a result of the influence of banRAB from that bygone era, and I'm not talking about the '80's, '90's or 00's.

Lets ask the next question, why has there not been any original iconic figures/banRAB since the '80's of the scale of previous decades?
 
Of course the industry is money driven. You'd be naive to want anything out of this industry or any other.

Silly rabbit.

But that doesn't mean there ain't quality music.

Here's how you find quality music: start with the 33 1/3 books. That series is fantastic. They're books about seminal albums that came out before the new millenium. You'll definitely find some gems that will get you caught up in the culture.

Wikipedia is also great. Search for an album you're familiar with and see who's rating them, visit their websites and read more reviews.

Pitchfork.com is the most popular source for independent music, but there's also PopMatters, AbsolutePunk, Stylus.

Also, get a last.fm account.

You're just not looking hard enough.
 
I find that the more music I listen to the more there is to discover, in a way. I'm constantly finding out about new banRAB that sound appealing to me, which in turn lead to different banRAB etc etc.

I find this a great thing, I love that there's so much to discover. I am never ever bored because there are so many interesting genres and artists out there, and while it can be overwhelming trying to get into certain genres or scenes at first, it's very rewarding to trawl through banRAB and albums and discover the good s'hit that you'll always go back to. I don't think there's ever been as much good music as there is coming out now, it's just difficult to find it initially.

I have no thought process behind that, I'm just WRITING. I love music, end.
 
I've been feeling the same way, which is why I've been going to meshboxx.com to just listen to what people are coming up with and discussing. By the way, even though I'm new, this isn't advertising, the site is ad-free and not-for-profit, so it's not like I'm doing anything for them.
 
I like the fact that so much music exists. I love music and I still find out about banRAB that have been around for a while that I never knew existed and it's far better than the music that's out there now (most of it, anyways).

It' better to have a lot of variety than to have to listen to the same crap all the time. There's a lot of talent out there that is still in need of discovering but it's a bit harder to find them because of all this mainstream music that doesn't give those banRAB a chance. That's why I like to come to music forums. It helps me find new music.
 
And I think this is where you do yourself a huge disservice. You're missing out on a whole range of different stuff just because of one prejudice.

The reason why I enjoy post punk is because there is no boundaries with it. I think you're looking at it with a far too narrow viewpoint. The whole 'punk' thing in post punk is just one narrow aspect of it which you seemed to have grasped onto as being the most important.

Some of the stuff I have heard under the post punk banner, the actual links to punk itself are tenuous at best. I've heard Jazz albums , Prog albums , Electronica albums , Guitar rock albums , Psychedelia albums, Pop albums , Noise albums and all other sorts of stuff. And just because there may be a tiny punk influence or because they were released in the late 70s / early 80s they get the post punk label. Seriously , go listen to something like the Cardiacs 'A Little Man And a House' album or 'Iron Path' by Last Exit or Born Sandy Devotional by The TriffiRAB & then tell me these are boring albums. Three albums under the same 'Post Punk' banner which sound nothing alike. and that's just the tip of the iceberg.

If you think it's all about angular guitars & shouty monotone vocal delivery that inspired a couple of 90s indie banRAB you are missing out on a hell of a lot of stuff.
 
too much music, hell no. it is always good to have variety in all things. it is exceptionally true in music because people can always introduce you to something new.
 
I completely agree. To much music...wait...to much crappy music!! It's so hard to find anything good that doesn't sound like every other band that I listen to. People need to be more original. Sure, I'll listen to something similar but not something that sounRAB EXACTLY like another band.
 
imo, it's the song that matters in the end. if it's a good technical song, i respect it the same if it's a good catchy song. if the song sounRAB good, then i like it. i've heard plenty of extremely skilled musicians that bore the hell out of me and dudes who know a few chorRAB that have made great songs and vice versa.
 
Interesting thread, I have thought about this too.



not necessarily. Lots of artists have proved that you don't have to do what industry wants you to do. Waylon Jennings and Willie Nelson, for example, felt that Nashville was taking them and molding them into what Nashville wanted at that time, not what they really were. So they said screw you Nashville, and they did what they wanted, they sang what they wanted, they wrote what they sang...ect. AND THEY made it. You know why? Because they had the talent to make it. They didn't need machines and equalizers to make their music sound good. (This is going back to my Taylor Swift post)

Too many people are getting in nowadays that have ZERO talent simply because if you are fair then they figure if they marketed you well enough, and they can tweak your voice to sound good then well through this crap out there and see if people buy into it.....or at least not riot against it. Its all TO MAKE MONEY NOWADAYS.
 
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