Do you think gays are causing a culture of separatism while asking for equality?

le coq géant

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I ask this because I AM gay. I understand the need to fight for gay rights and equality, but I'm not so sure there needs to be a gay phone directory, gay restaurants or gay anything, with the exception of anything that involves dating or hooking up. Yes, I know that gays are not accepted in lots of places, but isn't acceptance gained faster by being part of the rest of society. BTW, it's not just gays that do this, it's other minorities as well.
 
I very much agree with you.

I fight for my equality, because as a tax paying citizen of this country, I will NOT be denied them, and I will fight for the rights I deserve and the rights of others (like repealing DADT; I'm not in the military but I'll still fight against a law like that).

However, I think the best way to get people to accept homosexuality is to INTEGRATE and EDUCATE, not SEGREGATE. There are a lot of stereotypes against homosexuals that just are not true, and will never be true, but are still used because people around the world seem to think this and that and this and that. I can't tell you how many people I've met who make comments like, "Hey, wait, you're too pretty to be a lesbian, what?" and when I inform them that your sexuality has nothing to do with how you dress, they say things like (well, most of them), "Oh, really? I thought you HAD to be butch. That's crazy, I didn't know that!" I make a huge effort to educate people before getting annoyed with their stupid comments, and most times, it pays off. These people realise that they're wrong, and then they themselves help educate others. THAT'S what helps us.

I've never been a fan of gay bars and this and that. I understand why they have their purpose, but I just... have never felt the need to segregate myself from the rest of society. I want to prove that we are EQUAL, which we are. I find the fact that I love women over men to be so boring and blasé. So what? I love women and am a woman. Oh no, call the presses! When you think about it, that is such a minor thing. And because it's such a minor thing, I will treat it like a minor thing and act as normal. I hold hands and kiss my fiancée in public like any straight couple and when somebody gives me a bad time for it, I tell them that if straights can do it, so can I. I don't come out to everybody I meet; why would I? Straights don't have to, neither do I. If people ask, I'll gladly tell them, and because I'm engaged, anybody who gets to know me at all will obviously realise I'm a lesbian, but otherwise, I'm not going to introduce myself as "Hey, I'm ________ and I'm gay." I just don't see the point.

I will stand at the front and refuse to be shoved aside into a corner. Separate but equal never worked; that's why I hate civil unions and that's why I hate things that separate me from the rest of society. Sexuality, to me, is so inconsequential. The only thing that makes us separate from heterosexuals is the fact that we have to face discrimination and violence for being who we are. I'm not going to live in a fantasy world and pretend I have equal rights and I will fight for them, but at that same time, I do my very best to show the people around me that my sexuality is not my personality, and that they should not care about sexuality when dealing with a person.
 
No, I don't.

I believe the separation is not really by our own doing, and really, it's necessary.

By being a part of the hetero world, we are forcing ourselves on them. When we are in our areas, we aren't.

This is a hard stream to navigate. It's a very fine line. But, it really doesn't matter. One way we will piss some people off, and in another, we will do the same.

It's a no win.
 
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