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antonmonter
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abunai said:
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Kazuki-san
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Actually, in ANY country that has signed the Berne Convention or any of numerous other copyright treaties, or is a member of the WTO, it is most certainly illegal to download any works coming out of any other countries that have also signed, Japan and the US being two of them. Here is a list of those that have signed the Berne Convention. Keep in mind that's only one of the various treaties dealing with international copyrights.
Edo said:
Actually, in ANY country that has signed the Berne Convention or any of numerous other copyright treaties, or is a member of the WTO, it is most certainly illegal to download any works coming out of any other countries that have also signed, Japan and the US being two of them. Here is a list of those that have signed the Berne Convention. Keep in mind that's only one of the various treaties dealing with international copyrights.
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I have an answer for you, because the notion isn't false. What I'd like to know is where did the false notion come from that something can't be more legal or illegal than something else. The word "legal" is by no means a black or white word. There are varying degrees of legal, that's why you can get a fined for something like a parking ticket or can be sent to jail for something like manslaughter or robbery. Beleive it or not not all illegals are the same. Plus penalties for one thing in one country may be entirely different in another country. If you walk down the road peeing all over the ground in say Chicago you're not likely to be punished the same way if you were to do it in Bankok. So considering that when you download a licensed anime vs downloading an unlicensed anime the difference is that ADV has no right to press charges against you (if you're caught) if it's an unlicensed title. Are there entities out there that can get you in trouble if it's proven you are downloading something that's not licensed, maybe, I don't know.
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I have an answer for you, because the notion isn't false. What I'd like to know is where did the false notion come from that something can't be more legal or illegal than something else. The word "legal" is by no means a black or white word. There are varying degrees of legal, that's why you can get a fined for something like a parking ticket or can be sent to jail for something like manslaughter or robbery. Beleive it or not not all illegals are the same. Plus penalties for one thing in one country may be entirely different in another country. If you walk down the road peeing all over the ground in say Chicago you're not likely to be punished the same way if you were to do it in Bankok. So considering that when you download a licensed anime vs downloading an unlicensed anime the difference is that ADV has no right to press charges against you (if you're caught) if it's an unlicensed title. Are there entities out there that can get you in trouble if it's proven you are downloading something that's not licensed, maybe, I don't know.
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Shiroi Hane
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There are no 'degrees of legal' - either it is legal, or it is not (i.e. either it breaks a law or it doesn't). Some things may be legal in one place but not another and some crimes carry stiffer punishments, but that does not make them more or less illegal.
There are no 'degrees of legal' - either it is legal, or it is not (i.e. either it breaks a law or it doesn't). Some things may be legal in one place but not another and some crimes carry stiffer punishments, but that does not make them more or less illegal.
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Could you try actually reading a thread before posting in it? Thanks.
Kevin Reloaded.. said:so is it possible to wactch bleach episodes on this website?
:?: -Kevin Reloaded..
Could you try actually reading a thread before posting in it? Thanks.
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cyrax777
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"Google do you Use it"
"Google do you Use it"
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Zalis116
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I'm beginning to think that Rule #10 needs an additon, thanks to that one big streaming-video site and various other places where you can watch anime without downloading it--we're seeing more and more posts about this stuff these days.
I'm beginning to think that Rule #10 needs an additon, thanks to that one big streaming-video site and various other places where you can watch anime without downloading it--we're seeing more and more posts about this stuff these days.
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omnistry
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Agreed. I got in trouble just yesterday for mentioning that site. I actually thought it would be OK because:
1. You can watch them safely
2. You can't download them; so no worries for bootlegs
3. That site (and another that mustn't be mentioned) is legit
Again, Nagisa, I'm sorry for the violation. Those three were the reasons why I thought it was OK (but will never do it again
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Zalis116 said:
Agreed. I got in trouble just yesterday for mentioning that site. I actually thought it would be OK because:
1. You can watch them safely
2. You can't download them; so no worries for bootlegs
3. That site (and another that mustn't be mentioned) is legit
Again, Nagisa, I'm sorry for the violation. Those three were the reasons why I thought it was OK (but will never do it again
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woelfie
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[Just to pour some oil on the fire]
Technically, downloading a picture from the internet or scanning an anime/manga character without permission from the author is also an infringement on copyright law.
This also includes our ANN avatars. Should we all be punished for this ? :wink: :lol:
(I don't take into account the "Fair use doctrine". Since it is a typical US invention, I assume it's validity for the rest of the world is doubtful.)
There is a grey zone, and whether it is illegal or not, it's up to each individual to judge his own behavior, and be prepared to accept the consequences if the decision goes against him.
As for the ANN forum, if you don't read the rules, and you request downloads, don't complain when you're banned.
[Just to pour some oil on the fire]
Technically, downloading a picture from the internet or scanning an anime/manga character without permission from the author is also an infringement on copyright law.
This also includes our ANN avatars. Should we all be punished for this ? :wink: :lol:
(I don't take into account the "Fair use doctrine". Since it is a typical US invention, I assume it's validity for the rest of the world is doubtful.)
There is a grey zone, and whether it is illegal or not, it's up to each individual to judge his own behavior, and be prepared to accept the consequences if the decision goes against him.
As for the ANN forum, if you don't read the rules, and you request downloads, don't complain when you're banned.
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areaseven
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What part of SakechanBD's post on page 1 didn't you understand?
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What part of SakechanBD's post on page 1 didn't you understand?
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uncertain~
then you guys just read reviews, don't watch the actual anime or what? i mean it makes no sense to me. those people read the reviews and thought it would be interesting to find out where to download the animes they wanted. and if they post it here, they will be ban. what about making a thread just for them? thats my opinion
then you guys just read reviews, don't watch the actual anime or what? i mean it makes no sense to me. those people read the reviews and thought it would be interesting to find out where to download the animes they wanted. and if they post it here, they will be ban. what about making a thread just for them? thats my opinion
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I haven't been a member of this site for very long, but recent experience has told me that this will never fully stop but I do hope that we can at least keep it to a minimum.
I haven't been a member of this site for very long, but recent experience has told me that this will never fully stop but I do hope that we can at least keep it to a minimum.
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Deltakiral
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I beg to differ, and my accountant as well. Not only are there loopholes and other way of getting around the law. There are other shades of gray when it comes to laws.
Shiroi Hane said:
I beg to differ, and my accountant as well. Not only are there loopholes and other way of getting around the law. There are other shades of gray when it comes to laws.
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dormcat
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Ironically, in our experience those articles with the poorest written English are mostly posted by native English speakers.
The location under one's avatar can be anywhere, and the location indicated by IP address means nothing either: an IP located in an English-speaking country does not guarantee its user is a native speaker and vice versa, plus there are so many anonymous proxy servers available.antonmonter said:
Ironically, in our experience those articles with the poorest written English are mostly posted by native English speakers.
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Kazuki-san
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Look, I'm not going to argue with you. It IS illegal to download anything that falls under my previous post. Believe it or not, it's illegal whether you chose to or not. (Which is not to be confused with something actually happening to you for doing so, because that's often not the case)
Edo said:
Look, I'm not going to argue with you. It IS illegal to download anything that falls under my previous post. Believe it or not, it's illegal whether you chose to or not. (Which is not to be confused with something actually happening to you for doing so, because that's often not the case)
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areaseven
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Let me make it simple for the newbies...
Let me make it simple for the newbies...