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so is it possible to wactch bleach episodes on this website?
:?: -Kevin Reloaded.. 8-)
 
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ok i didn't go through all of this but it seems as though this is one of the "to download or not to download?" "is it legal or not" type of discussions. i figure nobody wants a new thread for this so ill just ask this here. if im wrong about this and a mod wants it in another thread or a new thread, then move it, delete or whatever i don't care.

ok so this thought crossed my mind and i know downloading fansubbed anime is "illegal". but i love anime and i can't really afford to be buying these dvds. so my opinion is this, what does it hurt to download anime that you wouldnt otherwise be watching or buying? its not as if im stealing a t-shirt that costs them $5 to make, the "data" can be copyed and shared with different people for free not costing the company a penny for me to have, and its not like id be buying it regardless. so for most anime its either i get it fansubbed or just don't get/watch it at all. sometimes if i have some extra money or something ill buy an anime dvd if its a good price. so some think this is morally wrong or "Stealing" but even if it is im not hurting their business, and their not looseing any money because of me.

if anyone has any comments please post them
 
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I hope that this will help, but I'm willing to bet I will still be reporting at least one post a week about downloads.
 
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The reason ANN doesn't allow links and/or requests for downloads doesn't have to do with morality. It has to do with the status of ANN. Being one of the most popular anime sites on the web, openly supporting something that is illegal isn't a good idea, regardless of whether it's "wrong" or not.
 
I have read the responses to my comment and I still support my own opinion about the "legalness" of something. I actually agree that anything that you do can be either illegal period or legal period and there really is no cloudy grey area of partially legal. But what it comes down doing something illegal and something legal is defined by the act of doing it. Like you can't say I sort of stole a candy bar from the store. Either you were/are in possession of it or you are not. Either you paid for it or you didn't, there's no in between. However the point that I am still convinced of is the importance of the legality of something is the thing that really matters and the way I was expressing that is that some things that are illegal are more severe than other things that are illegal.

It is absolutely necessary that every illegal action have a degree if punishment attached to it because that is the society we live in, and it is part of human nature to add incremental value to something based on a common notion of how much it is worth.
If you don't beleive that here's proof to yourself: If you have ever gotten caught for something you knew was bad, what is one of the first things that pop into your mind? - What your punishment is going to be. Punishment is necessary for everything that is determined to be wrong but all punishment differs depending on the act. Also if you have ever gotten caught for something but not punished for it, the first thought in your mind is releif that you didn't have to [insert predicted penalty]. Every action has some sort of reaction, mental or physical. Well anyway, I dragged on too long about human nature on this subject and hopefully didn't cause more tension.
 
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PantsGoblin said:
The reason ANN doesn't allow links and/or requests for downloads doesn't have to do with morality. It has to do with the status of ANN. Being one of the most popular anime sites on the web, openly supporting something that is illegal isn't a good idea, regardless of whether it's "wrong" or not.
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To that, I would add that ANN is not only one of the most popular anime sites on the Net, it's also heavily connected to and trusted by the anime industry as a place to advertise, get in touch with "the public," post press releases, etc. So, if they allowed people to ask, "Hey, which DVD-ripping group's version of I My Me! Strawberry Eggs should I download?" and post links, that would make the site look bad to the industry, and thus ANN would lose its position and relevance. Obviously, there are popular anime sites that have discussion on illegal content, but unlike ANN and AoD, those obviously aren't sites that have a working relationship with the anime industry.
 
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Actually, downloading isn't legal. It's just NOT illegal. As others have pointed out, it's the distribution of files and the uploading that's illegal.

HOWEVER, despite the il/legalities of everything, asking for downloads at ANN is still[/it] forbidden, and will continue to be so until the ends of time. ^_^ The end.
 
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thanks for the replys, wasnt shur if anyone would even notice i posted... lol though i really wasnt asking about why ann doesnt alow the links and whatnot, thanks for the reply none the less.

i guess maybe i was looking for, more or less. does anyone think what im doing is wrong? even though it is frowned upon. is it understandable? or do you think if i can't afford it i shouldnt watch it and be satisfied with whats on tv? again noteing that since im not going to buy it anyway its not as if im stealing business or money out of their pockets.
 
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"Is it OK?" is a tough question, and it really depends on who you ask. There are basically a few "camps" on this issue:

1) All downloading is wrong because it's illegal and lets people watch works of art without compensating the artist.
2) Downloading material not licensed in one's area of the world is (morally, but not legally) OK as "previews" and "free advertising" to generate interest in buying the series.
3) Downloading licensed or unlicensed material is "OK" as long as you buy all (or a significant percentage) of what you download, in order to support the industry.
4) Downloading anything and everything is cool because [the material should be free, the companies are ripping us off, the companies don't release good products, piracy is cool, "I can get it for free, why pay for it"] ~or because of some other reason.

If you honestly can't buy it, I don't think it's extremely bad, but it's better to have the attitude of "I'm going to buy DVDs someday when I have money" instead of "I'm going to watch all I can because it's free."

I'd suggest reading through these threads:
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=27289
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=25445
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=24208
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=24769
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=19697
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=16735
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=24828

Just make sure to set aside a LOT of time.

(It's two words, people a lot, not alot or allot!)
 
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Edo said:
Because, as I have mentioned before, downloading is NOT currently illegal in most of the world! Please, I don't agree with it, but I can't stand when people go on about how it is illegal, when by law, it's not. However, it certainly is immoral.
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Actually, in ANY country that has signed the Berne Convention or any of numerous other copyright treaties, or is a member of the WTO, it is most certainly illegal to download any works coming out of any other countries that have also signed, Japan and the US being two of them. Here is a list of those that have signed the Berne Convention. Keep in mind that's only one of the various treaties dealing with international copyrights.
 
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Alex K. said:
I wouldn't post it, then. This is Anime News Network. :wink:
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Don't be a smartass.
Teh Rules said:
9a) No Commerce outside of the Retail Forum! ANN's forums are not to be used to sell, buy or transfer goods or services. Users may not post their own commercial endeavours or link to commercial websites unless specifically requested by another poster. Personal websites may be linked as necessary, provided that it is requested or relevant to the discussion. Users who have been hired to advertise for specific items will be banned.
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It looks like anime and music downloaders are among the losers in a new U.S. Supreme Court decision that hammered the peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing networks.

The court in the Grokster case this weekend ruled that P2P networks like Grokster and Morpheus can be sued for encouraging copyright violations. The court didn’t buy the media companies’ argument that P2P technology should be outlawed altogether on grounds its basic purpose is to facilitate copyright piracy. But the court did greatly weaken legal protection for the file-sharing networks.

The court said P2P networks that "encourage" or "promote" unlawful trading of copyrighted music or video files by their users can be sued right along with the users doing the actual illicit trading. The court said the P2P networks’ legal liability for the actions of their users will depend on how they market the network/software and what steps they take to curtail illicit uses.

In short, media companies now can prosecute the builders of the P2P "pirate ships" (Grokster etc.) along with the actual copyright pirates themselves. Look for a whole lot of court cases that'll establish what P2P has to do to avoid liability for aiding and abetting copyright piracy. (^_*)
 
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herbkir said:
It looks like anime and music downloaders are among the losers in a new U.S. Supreme Court decision that hammered the peer-to-peer (P2P) file-sharing networks.
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While music downloaders certainly have the future of their free stash to fear, this decision will hardly affect anime. About the only time you could expect an anime company to become involved is if they have a good feeling that P2P is taking a large chunk of their sales away, and they decide they have quite a bit of extra money laying around that they can throw at a suit. On top of that, they also have to weigh the consequences of alienating those that download to preview and then buy.
 
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However the point that I am still convinced of is the importance of the legality of something is the thing that really matters and the way I was expressing that is that some things that are illegal are more severe than other things that are illegal.
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Then I would say that Nagisa summed it up better than you did, and in only the first two sentences of his post. :wink:
 
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