Disable ATT 'Tab Top' and keep Active Display?

Hi Ricky: Read your blog some time ago about what S60 can learn from Windows Mobile. I remember one of the things was to get S60 to have the active standby screen to display more information. This Tab Top may not be the way to go, but S60 active standby screen does need some improvements, don't you think?
 
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Hey Ricky, correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't you working for Nokia now? Maybe you can vent internally now and influence change vs. vent publicly.

On a separate note, let's be clear on the issue here: there's nothing wrong with the interface. The only problem is that the user can't select active standby anymore.

You guys are so averse to change, it's no wonder the S60 interface hasn't been innovated in so many years. The iphone was a godsend for S60.
 
One thing I can not understand is why the active standby is allowed to be turned off.I have actually walked into many ATT Stores and turn on the active standby of the N75 display models. My N75 from ATT actually was shipped with it off and you just get a blank screen. I think ATT must get a lot of calls from confused customers and this has led to the Tab Top.
 
It looks exactly like Yahoo Go's interface except the tab top drops down while Yahoo Go's goes up.

Are you able to select/change the tab tops or it's pretty much set by AT&T? Also, as long as we don't upgrade to the latest AT&T fw we can avoid this correct? And this doesn't affect debranding & unlocking an N75?

I saw a youtube vid where AT&T did an OTA fw upgrade on an N75. Pretty cool but scary to think how AT&T is fully sweeping S60 under the rug...
 
Well, if something allows the novice user to access "most anything on the phone" on the home screen and the advanced users can still access the main menu, this might be a good thing.
 
i do the same thing in every ATT store, i go and turn on the active standby screen on the n75. then the last time i went in there, some older lady was looking at it, and she was asking me questions about the phone, and she wanted it removed cause it was too much. she didnt even know i turned it on, just assumed it was always there. silly americans i guess!
 
You're right, I am working there now, in a limited capacity, and don't worry, I've not muted myself, neither on my site nor internal discussions.

Have you actually used a handset with this Remington UI loaded on? It *is* bad. It dumbs down the phone, and the one I used it on caused frequent crashes, specifically when trying to toggle bluetooth on and off.

Personally, I see Remington just like I see Verizon's UI that they put on every non-smartphone in their lineup - as if the carrier knows how the phone's UI should look and feel, rather than the manufacturer.
 
To me, it kinda looks like the Neo interface. If S60 got anything that was even half as good as Neo, I'd switch back in a heartbeat.
 
Hey, Earl, my email settings were intact after debranding too. Were you able to use Tab Top to display your email account that was setup in the client? If so, how did you do it, cause I haven't found a way to. If that worked I would be less displeased, although you have to agree that inability to customize which programs you can access from it severely limits its usability!

Honestly if they think they can railroad us into not using third party programs, they would have to go further than they did. I'm not about to buy another phone now, but I was real close to retiring my PDA til they added Remington. And the resources it uses because its Flash just make it another program I can't afford to run, if I want to get anything else done.
 
The POP3/IMAP4 client was under Messaging but only the Mobile Email shows up under the Messages tab. My phone just died so I cannot fiddle with. My memory was getting low so I turned the phone off to restart it. I got an error saying "Phone startup failed. See retailer." Although I bought the phone from an eBay seller, Nokia says that it is still under warranty. I have fifteen days to send it to the repair center in Huntsville, AL. After that, they will want proof of purchase. I am sending it to them on Saturday. For the cost of shipping and insurance, I can't beat that. I had to drop back to my LG CU400, my last 3G phone. It's a good thing I left the phonebook on it.
 
That interface looks gross.

I asked one of my buddies who works for att why the company was going the way of verizon, and he said that he has been trained to convey to customers that phones which are standardized will only help the user experience in the end; customers can become familiar with att phones and don't have to worry about learning new menu navigation, etc. He also stated that it makes it much easier for att to put their junk where they want it (read: they have the ability to bloat the device in a way that has the potential to maximize profit.)

...oh, and this thread just saved me from buying an att branded N75. No unbranding, no dice.
 
XBM means Exchange By Mail. You call in to the XBM number and describe your problems. If your warranty is still in effect, they will ship you a replacement phone with a prepaid mailer to return your old phone. You are supposed to use the battery and charger from your defective phone. They also have a Device Support Center in Falls Church, VA near where I live, but I am not sure that they cover phones you get outside of AT&T Mobility. In any case I mailed the phone to the Huntsville, AL Nokia repair center on Friday. It cost me under $9 to ship Priority Mail with insurance and Signature Confirmation.
 
I guess the providers don't much care that it also maximizes customer dissatisfaction, at least for those who want to utilize the phone to its fullest capabilities. Just like everything else, let's all excel at mediocrity, and the heck with those who appreciate excellence! (notice I'm not aiming that specifically at ATT, the others are just as guilty)
 
Apparently Nokia creates the user interface. If you change the product code from the generic Nokia one to the one for the new AT&T model, the software updater downloads and installs the Tab Top system. You also get all the AT&T applications.
 
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