Disable ATT 'Tab Top' and keep Active Display?

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as most know the att branded N75s have the new ( )
Tab Top feature which is kind of crap...they let you disable it however it seems you can't have the Active Display tho, to show calendar events etc..

they make you choose between the Tab Top and the regular display...does anyone know if there is a way to disable the Tab Top and keep the original Active Display going?

thanks
 
Since the AT&T firmware has a higher version number than the Nokia firmware, the Nokia Software Updater will find no update. The AT&T-branded phone has a different product code from the Cingular-branded model. The product code for the AT&T model is 0545060 while the Cingular-branded model has a product code of 0527376. The generic product code used when you debrand from Cingular is 0541358.
 
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Man I hate operator branded phones.. Even my blackberry annoys me with this, and it's branding isn't even that intrusive. I haven't owned an operator branded S60 handset in years though, and am not looking forward to T-mobile eventually getting an AWS S60 since it'll probably mean buying branded again.

Anyway sorry to rant and threadjack but have you thought about one of the third party today screens as a stopgap? Did Handy Today ever get updated for v3?

-olly
 
One good feature of the Tab Top is that the actual phone number shows in the Call History and you do not have to press Use number/Edit to see which number called you. It even shows the number and time for each call rather than just the last call.
 
bleh, what horrible news.... one of my favorite aspects of S60 is being able to view active tasks/calendar etc.. on my homescreen...

AT&T's insistence on dumbing down the S60 OS is beyond me
getting the N75 for bout $120usd is a decent price tho, but bleh


btw, will try to get a screen shot up of this Tab Top


[edit] even tho the price was right, this phone is going back...them killing the S60 Active Display is actually a deal breaker for me
 
I guess it would be safe to assume that the AT&T version of the N95-3 (if it even comes out), will have this "top tab" business as well?
 
It does not matter which product code you use, once the Remington UI (tab Top) is in there, you're stuck with it. Trust me, I tried that.

I have also tried every other app I could find that might load an active desktop, but they all revert to the generic one when you close the flip. When you reopen it, you just see the generic one again. If anyone finds one that does work, please post!

The Tab Top would not be so bad, if you only used the phone for music and Media Net. But in the email section it will only show txt, and not the inbox, which i have configured for my ISP mail. It's also flash and uses a lot of resources, causing the phone to crash when you try to something else.

Also there's no way to add shortcuts for programs you do use.
 
I'm waiting to see screens, but I think I saw this Remington UI a long while back. It's basically a dumbphone front for S60, which CLEARLY shows what I've been saying for a while, that AT&T doesn't *get* that S60 is a smartphone OS.

That's not entirely AT&T's stupidity, though. It also reflects back on Nokia, as clearly they're not using the right methods/reasoning to prove otherwise. It's a two-way street, sadly.
 
Here is an image of the Nokia N75 Tab Top. It has dropdown menus from left to right:
Settings, Calls, Home, Messages, MEdia Net, Music
You use the left and right arrows to move between the menus and the up and down arrows to move within the menus. The left softkey selects.



You can change the wallpapers on the Home menu with the up and down arrows. The Messages menu has Mobile Email plus the usual messaging. My Nokia N75 kept the POP3/IMAP4 email client when I rebaranded from the Nokia to the AT&T firmware. Even the settings were intact after I restroe it from a backup.
 
I am assuming when you press the menu button, the original menu comes up, right? You just don't get the regular active standby screen. You either a "tab top" or active standby "off", correct?
 
correct. also known as 'Remington', Tab Top looks very much like a dumbphone and allows you to do most anything on the phone without ever digging down to the S60 roots.

Personally, I think this is precisely the WRONG thing that S60 needs to be doing to get market share in the U.S. Sure, they got some distribution, but at what cost? They need to be building S60 to have some sort of recognition, and allowing carriers to put garbage like this on it is the WRONG way to go about that.
 
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