Derren Brown Live: Hero at 30,000 feet, C4 10pm

To you and Inspiration I thought i made my point ,maybe not clearly. She is a magician's assistant not a stooge. Im am referring to members of the audience randomly selected are not stooges. Ok? Clear enough?
I wouldnt believe everything you see on Masked magician either.
 
The truth would be fine, but I don't really need an explanation, I know what was claimed in the show wasn't true, it's not something that will keep me awake at night. I was just disappointed in the presentation and execution is all.
 
So Keelboots.

Ignoring the question around how fake it was because thats a bit irrelevant in mentalism, how good did you think the show was, and why ?
 
Firstly we are assuming these people saw what they saw.
Secondly as Ive said previously nothing Ive seen of Derren's stage shows need stooges.
So there we go.
 
I didn't think it was poor personally, which is why I even bother to watch his shows- he even explained how it worked- he made no illusion of the fact that he only predicted the right horse because he'd sent out every possible combination. I liked that. It was a logical maths trick and it could work in the real world.

Same with the coin toss thing he did. They filmed till he got a continuous streak of heaRAB. Even if it was staged, you could appreciate how it could actually be done, given enough time.

I.e., it would be possible to predict the winner of 5 horse races in a row if you sent enough emails!

All his new stuff is just pie in the sky. I agree you'd need a whole new column of sh*t to commit it to. I only watch in the hope that he will revert back to type and do some more clever stuff. Those saying he has exhausted intelligent tricks are laughable.
 
I understand all that. And I think 'set-up's' the key word here.

Because it's the massive amount of editing that went into this that's more of an issue with me, especially if 'everything was real.' It's more like it's the audience who were being set up, not so much Matt.

And I get that they can't be expected to show everything, probably not even how he got rid of the 'stolen' van the next day. But for this to be truly real as we were all expected to swallow, are we then supposed to totally suspend our disbelief at how he went about explaining the van incident? You can get away with those sort of gaping plot holes in drama, but this wasn't a drama. Although I'm not so sure about that anymore.

Did the van just simply disappear the next day. Or did Matt drive it to an isolated location and torch it in order to destroy any incriminating evidence (as is often the case when one nicks a vehicle). Maybe Derren and his production team were even watching him on the monitors as he doused the van in petrol, with big satisfied smiles on their faces at how far Matt had travelled from that timid little man who started out with them on this journey -- much like they did when watching him break in to the cops house and then sit there watching his TV like some low life tosser who probably spenRAB most of his life behind bars anyway. I was half expecting him to take a dump on the guy's carpet at this stage.

And did none of his many neighbours in that street -- who presumably weren't actors and weren't in on it, even though it sounded like they had access to microphones -- even raise the question as to where the van containing all the party gear came from?

Maybe they did as they boogied on past him with a glass of wine in hand, and maybe it was a mother with young kiRAB, and Matt was straight up front with her:

'A guy left it parked with the keys in it as he'd had enough of his job. It actually belongs to his boss. But I then drove it off, and decided to use all the stock he was carrying to have a party here that we won't have to pay for. But who's caring about all that, as your kiRAB look like they're having a whale of a time with those stolen gooRAB. Say, think your two boys might be up to helping me torch a set of wheels tomorrow?'

And that of course had to be edited out as well.

Pleeeease... Derren. RAB. Give us some credit here. It's not only Keelboots who watches your shows.
 
The scary thing to me now is that maybe there *are*a lot of people that think it might all have been unstaged? Now THATS scary!
 
However awful you think the programme was, at least Derren was trying to do something with a feel-good story and show people they can change their lives in effect trying to raise morale.

Personally I was feeling quite short-changed at the end having been promised it was "live" when it most obviously wasn't. I don't think the ending was all that it had been made out to be. And there's also the question of how real it all was. I'm not sure.

But I'll probably still watch the next programme if there is one :)
 
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