Derren Brown Live: Hero at 30,000 feet, C4 10pm

He is rubbish,thats for sure, he thinks that people will believe this bloke hasn't seen all of the trailers for the show? And is in a dream state while he talks to him? This is the worst thing I have seen DB do, that's for sure.
 
One thing i noticed. This Matt bloke was honest enough to jump into a taxi & return someones wallet & keys but was quick enough to completely empty a van load of someone elses party supplies. :rolleyes:
 
why am I wasting my time talking to you. all through this thread you are saying db is faking hypnosis and using stooges, now you say hes not faking.
are you an idiot?
is it not possible for you to hold a rational discussion?


I've had a very interesting past life, by the way.
 
I'm surprised people complained about the train bit. In a show with a (supposedly) real armed robbery, a crocodile and a guy terrified of flying travelling alone on an aeroplane, that was surely the safest stunt? It was only doing about 20mph or something to start with and you could see it getting progressively slower the closer to him it got.
 
But builders do exist, don't they? Someone must've built the building I'm in.

Unless God did it.

In which case I need to see him about the roof.:D
 
dull as dishwater

derron you've lost it mate, really

and using a guy who supposedly has some issues, whether ASD or has OCD,

LAME !! and for that reason i'm switchin' OFF

:sleep:
 
The bits in the airport were live. If the entire thing had been life, we would have been watching for a month at most, or a few hours at least. And they couldn't have edited any of the plane scenes and put in subtitles to let us understand what he was saying when he spoke quietly.

I'm SO tired right now and what I just wrote is seeming like nonsense to me.
 
The difficulty here is there is a subtle distinction in how Derrens act is changing for the worse that Keelboots just doesn't get.

Derren started out with Mind Control and mentalism and was doing mentalist tricks very clearly, if not sometimes just straight card tricks.

Then he moved into a rather dangerous area of saying he could control and predict people thoughts and backed this up with all kinRAB of nonsensical psychobabble that he doesn't even believe in himself. The BIG but in that was that, for magicians and mentalists the clues where always there that this was trickery and anybody that got really interested and dug a bit would realise that Derrens was having them on and that 99% of what they had seen was trickery.

A great example was where he got an undertaker to randomly sort into two piles a set of photos. When the photos were turned over one pile was shown to pictures of people who had died. The guy had managed to split them between live people and dead people without knowing any of the photographees. A stunned Derren declared that it was "Out of this World". The in joke for magicians is that that is the name of a card trick where a spectator randomly deals a deck into two piles and , when they are turned over one pile is all red carRAB and one all black.

Then we move to last nights show which was all about Matt being empowered by Derren through a number of scenarios and "suggestion". Not a hint or disclaimer that magic was used and it probably wasn't.

So now Derren isn't selling a magic act any more he's selling some bullshit about empowerment but without a hint to people that things may not quite be what they seem.

Dangerous and foolish and people like Keelboots seem determined to let him go down this path. At the same time he's got a fantastic mentalism/magic show on the go outside the lazy and dangerous little cash boat he's set up for himself with C4
 
Keelboots you are hilarious and far more entertaining than the show.

Here are a thousand (A THOUSAND) posts suggesting that Matt, Derren, and the show generally were a fraud...and you think that some nonsense Derren has subsequently written on a different website acts to "clear up the actor claims.. "

You are totally bonkers..I don't mean that in an abusive way, just factually. My only explanation is that either you are a child and we had all thought we were discussing this with an adult (apologies if that's the case), or you are a comedy genious who has been taking us all for a ride this last 24 hours with your posts (in which case congratulations).
 
Well bye then.

I did expect that, having had a go at anybody that shouted fake, but then digging your own grave by saying it wasn't a documentary, you'd be scarpering pretty quickly.

You are a silly silly child who can consider themselves put in their place.
 
Not really. David Copperfield says that he will walk through the great wall of china and then does it in a way to convince you that he has really done just that. (As well as flying and transporting himself half way around the world to an island every night of his show)

He doesn't tell the the audience how it is done and goes out of his way to prove that what he is doing is real using various means.

He is not being "SANCTIMONIOUS" at all and no one dies from having the wool pulled over their eyes so no need for anyone to contact human rights on their behalf. In fact wait for it, that is what the audience have paid good money to see and would be rightfully annoyed if his didn't do exactly that.

This IS what a magician does!
 
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