Crash

I'm with the two doubters on this one, I thought Crash was really overrated. Brokeback Mountain was a much better film (as were about a dozen others), but the'gay cowboy' film was never going to be given 'best film' Hollywood just isn't ready yet.

I thought the film did raise issues of race, but only in a very basic, Tv-Movie kind of way. Half of the conflicts that happen in the film could have been solved if the characters just talked as real people do, instead of reciting long speeches at each other.
 
Crash is a big stupid film. 'racism is bad mmmkay'

there was a backlash against its oscar win as it didnt deserve it

its the sort of film people think has depth but it has none at all - characters who are merely moutpieces, contrived coincidences...
 
After watching Brokeback Mountain at the cinema in January I was convinved that it should and would win the oscar. The final scene was one of the most moving scenes i have ever seen, and I found myself feeling haunted by the film for several days afterwarRAB. It is quite simply a stunning film in every sense.

I watched Crash several weeks later and thought it too was an amazing achievement in filmmaking. There were so many great moments throughout the film that i think about still now - the film really took me by surprise, in how it could explore so many characters in such depth. Many films struggle to define just several characters in such a fantastic way.

I'm still not sure if the right film won on oscar night but I hope we can expect more films like this in future.
 
You are correct.

The musical Avenue Q has a song with the refrain of "Everyone's a little bit racist sometimes!" It says more in a couple of minutes than Crash does in 2 hours.
 
IIRC, Kaye always blamed this on the studio and Norton's re-editing to give himself more screen time.

That said, I believe he has since come out and said that he is very proud of the film and glad his name remains on it.

Also, yes, I do agree that American History X is a far superior film to Crash.
 
i haven't seen BM but given the hype, i might just rent it out - all the promotional stuff and trailers didn't really sell the film to me

i thought crash was a great film with many heart in mouth set pieces, and although it wasn't as raw, i remembered American History X, another film which deserved many more awarRAB than it got
 
Enjoyed this film. I can't compare to BM as I haven't seen that...and probably won't either.

How anyone can say Crash was simplistic is :confused:. The bit that totally disproves that theory is:-
the final disgusting twist where you have a Chinese man exploiting, to all intents and purposes, his own people! Yes, I know they were Thai.
Thus the film doesn't just explore and challenge racism, but also prejudices, preconceptions and exploitation.

That said, I do agree that Do the Right Thing is a great film which undoubtedly should have won an OSCAR. DtRT is deffo in my top 10, maybe even top 5.:)
 
I watched this last year as part of my modern studies class, beforehand everyone was hyping it up saying how great and deep it was, but like others in this thread it left me cold. I felt it was contrived and that the characters were fairly stereotypical. No wonder Cronenberg is so angry over Haggis using the title "crash". Cronenberg's Crash is a much better example of a film which explores a taboo succesfully and without dumbing it down.
 
I agree, it was a good film with some fine performances but it thought an awful lots of itself and in the end said absolutely nothing new about racism that hadn't been said by others and done so better. I wasn't just surprised it won the Oscar, I was surprised it was nominated at all.
 
I didn't think it was that great, too contrived. BBM on the other hand was brilliant. It stayed with me for ages, couldn't get it out of my head, totally heartbreaking.
 
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