Crash

the American version is a different running time to the English version and on top of that there is a directors cut which is coming out as well. some have bits taken out of it, some have other bits in it

(dont think even the kinky crash film with james spader has as many versions with bits cut out of it)
 
I thought it was absolute rubbish myself.

It's incredibly simplistic and contrived. If you want to see a good film on racism then watch 'Do the right thing'.
 
Do you really believe that?

I mean I accept that some films are not to people' staste, but honestly - I don't see how you could ever describe Crash as contrived. Or simplistic.

I'd like to know what aspects of the film led you to feel that way.
 
I was given the DVD as a present last week, and three generations of my family watched it last night. All of us were totally gripped throughout. (My daughter had already seen it in her Modern Studies class at school.) I found it fascinating, moving, enlightening, and very clever. I love films that have several narrative stranRAB that all come together. I couldn't recommend it highly enough.
 
I thought American History X dealt with the subject matter a hell of a lot better - and without reverting to stereotypes. Crash brings new meaning to the word contrived.

No idea about the Humpty Dumpty thing!
 
i completely agree. was it made for children?? every single scene seemed to be saying 'racism is a BAD thing mmmkay, kiRAB'. like, durr...

it was made for middle america


none of the 'characters' are actual people, they're all archetypes
 
American History X, was a great film, I watched it years ago and I remember being very disturbed by it. Throughout the film you had this feeling that despite the main characters best efforts something really bad was going to happen.

Oh, and the sound in "that" scene at the beginning that leaRAB to to the main characters change. (hope that makes sense - don't want to give too much away for those that haven't watched it.

On reflection American History X was a far grittier film, maybe not as glossy as Crash. But I enjoyed both and found both compelling if difficult to watch. :)
 
I don't think that was the message - everyone knows 'racism is a bad thing'. The point IMO was that nothing is black and white ( :o ) - people aren't just racist or not... Everyone stereotypes and makes judgements about people, no matter how much we think we are open-minded and not racist at all.

If the point was simply racism is bad then why would it have Matt Dillon, a very racist cop, rescue Thandie Newton, or have it explained why he was racist. Why have Ryan Philippe, a 'good' cop who hated racism turn out to be a 'bad' guy at the end - why not make him the hero who saves the day from all racism?
- (For those who haven't seen it.)

I agree that the film was making a point and a lot happened to confirm that point, but I don't think it was simplistic - the point to me seemed that nothing is that simple. That's the way I saw it anyway.... :)
 
Just watched this film. It didn't really say much to me...in fact i thought it was poor. Very disappointing :(
 
Just got round to seeing this last night and I thought it was brilliant. It was a thousand times better than BM within the first ten minutes. Kind of like Do The Right Thing merged with Short Cuts (I wouldn't be surprised if that's how it was pitched). My take on it is much like amy77's. Everyone started out being a sterotype - a redneck cop; a black guy with a chip on his shoulder; the middle-class white lady; the young cop with a more liberal attitude; the 'white' black couple - but then went on to show how easy it is to a) live up to your sterotype, thus re-inforcing other people's negative attitudes towarRAB you and b) quickly become the person you think you hate. Stand-outs for me were Matt Dillion and Ludacriss.
 
Not wanting to be too picky but wasn't it Kevin Klein's white character that breaks down in "the 'hood", only to be rescued by Danny Glovers black mechanic character?
I enjoyed Grand Canyon but Crash moved me more.
 
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