"Concerned Citizens of the United States" Looking Out for Our Interests!

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Lust4Life said:
niblet_head said:
Yeah, I always wonder why people suspect racism when immigrants are called invaders and characterized as coming to take your nice house from you. :rolleyes:

Someone who uses terms a hair's breadth away from racism, I have no problem believing they're racists.

Of course, YOU won't be able just "digest that fact" without a noxious belch, I'm sure.
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No, sorry but as usual you're full of shit.


You immediatley scream racism every time you haven't got any sort of logical argument to defend what you'd LIKE to believe.

You basically are a coward and a liar.
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I am roaring with laughter!! Omigod, you are hilarious!!!

Don't worry. I duly chagrined by your incisive arguments. Whatever you say.

(Hilarious!!)
 
niblet_head said:
Lust4Life said:
niblet_head said:
Yeah, I always wonder why people suspect racism when immigrants are called invaders and characterized as coming to take your nice house from you. :rolleyes:

Someone who uses terms a hair's breadth away from racism, I have no problem believing they're racists.

Of course, YOU won't be able just "digest that fact" without a noxious belch, I'm sure.
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No, sorry but as usual you're full of shit.


You immediatley scream racism every time you haven't got any sort of logical argument to defend what you'd LIKE to believe.

You basically are a coward and a liar.
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I am roaring with laughter!! Omigod, you are hilarious!!!

Don't worry. I duly chagrined by your incisive arguments. Whatever you say.

(Hilarious!!)
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Ah its good to be appreciated, thank you.
 
ivan astikov said:
Don't recall saying they all were. Do you want some of our whinging, white, "The Paki's have took all our jobs!", disaffected youths, then?
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Actually, I think we'll send the poorer WASP's back to the ancestral homeland; maybe they can join the BNP & get up to 20%.
 
Bosstone said:
Oy vey.

Bricker has a freaking point. A verbal declaration of legality is no guarantee, not when the person has motive to lie. A legal immigrant would say they're legal, and an illegal immigrant would also say they're legal. The women are not necessarily liars, but neither is their testimony conclusive.

In either case, the means by which the list was obtained is still mighty damn suspicious if not outright illegal in itself, and it's probable that same of the name on the list are legal. This is still a pretty ugly act with ugly repercussions, but in the case of the two women we simply can't accept their assurances in and of themselves.
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Thank you.

This is an ugly act, I agree, and to forestall objections from "my" side, I'll point out that it would be ugly for a wide variety of crimes. The more heinous the crime, the more ugly the action is because the potential for error: a list of child molestors handled in the same way would be ugly because the horrific damage to the reputation of those on the list who were not guilty. The less heinous the crime, the more ugly the action because it arrogates to this "citizen's" group the odious role of informer. At MOST, a person who believes another has committed a crime should report that crime to the police. Period.
 
Laudenum said:
I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens reporting illegals to the relevant authorities, no more than I would have a problem with a person who reported that their neighbour was a law-breaker.

It is the duty of every good citizen to report illegals and other lawbreakers, and not turn a blind eye to their activities.
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Bullcrap. It's not the duty of anyone to turn in anyone based solely on their ethnicity, appearance, or country of origin.

Turns out this upstanding, patriotic, and not at all racist group may be guilty of some data mining.
 
Little Plastic Ninja said:
Was this sarcasm?

I mean, I'm pretty confident it had to be a state employee -- someone with access to that information -- who did the deed, but I don't see evidence in that article that it was these two people.

If I had to guess based on my time working for the state I'd suppose that a cursory glance at the access histories of these two individuals' state database profiles would indicate that they'd accessed the files.

I'm not defending these people by any stretch of the imagination, but I'm just checking: was that your deadpan face or no?
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No, not sarcasm.

I think there's a low threshold for claiming that the source of the data was illegal access, but there had to be SOMETHING, not just speculation. I don't know if it was these particular people, or what their degree of criminal culpability might be, but this news is enough that I agree it's reasonable to say that the list itself was obtained illegally.
 
Skeleton10 said:
Hey folks, new here but don't let that fool ya.
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I'll thank you to walk your disgusting racist ass right back out the door it snuck in through.

Or you can go hang out with [B]magellan01[/B]. You'd probably have fun tongue-bathing each others' assholes while you jack off to the idea of all the Scary Brown People being shipped back Where They Came From, Constitution be damned.
 
"Concerned Citizens of the United States" Looking Out for Our Interests!

niblet_head said:
Lust4Life said:
niblet_head said:
Yeah, I always wonder why people suspect racism when immigrants are called invaders and characterized as coming to take your nice house from you. :rolleyes:

Someone who uses terms a hair's breadth away from racism, I have no problem believing they're racists.

Of course, YOU won't be able just "digest that fact" without a noxious belch, I'm sure.
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No, sorry but as usual you're full of shit.


You immediatley scream racism every time you haven't got any sort of logical argument to defend what you'd LIKE to believe.

You basically are a coward and a liar.
Click to expand...

I am roaring with laughter!! Omigod, you are hilarious!!!

Don't worry. I duly chagrined by your incisive arguments. Whatever you say.

(Hilarious!!)
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Translation: you got bitch-slapped silly and you got squat.

Maybe you should stick to the actual points being debated. Oh wait
 
ivan astikov said:
I didn't hear anyone saying that when Saddam was kicking the shit out of Kuwait.
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Sure you did: Saddam himself. And had his conquest been permitted to continue to completion, then he'd have a claim of sovereignty over the area.

kaylasdad99 said:
I was under the impression that the point of the founding of the United Nations was to stop recognizing right of conquest as legitimate. Going forward, at any rate.

In the meantime, the evolution of our consciousness kinda-sorta compels us to acknowledge that the past legitimacy of the practice is suspect (by today's standards), and that what we have come to think of as the perquisites of sovereignty should at least be subjected to some scrutiny before we use them as exclusionary cudgels against human beings who presumably have the same reasons for wanting to be here as did our own immigrant ancestors.
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Sure, let me know how that works, unraveling conquest after conquest. Do the Celts get to stay in Britain or do they have to be resettled in Central Europe?

Even if we assume that the United Nations' founding drew a bright line in the sand insofar as freezing national boundary changes by conquest, the specific reference I was answering - US sovereignty over mainland middle North America - comfortably pre-dates it.

So, no, I absolutely reject the idea that there can be any question of the sovereignty of the present United States government over the land in question here, much less the idea that such question can be used in any way to vitiate the strength or legitimacy of our immigration laws, regardless of how much of a "cudgel" they are for other human beings.
 
Shot From Guns said:
I'll thank you to walk your disgusting racist ass right back out the door it snuck in through.

Or you can go hang out with [B]magellan01[/B]. You'd probably have fun tongue-bathing each others' assholes while you jack off to the idea of all the Scary Brown People being shipped back Where They Came From, Constitution be damned.
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What's great about a post like this is that you don't have to check to see if we're in the Pit.
 
Onomatopoeia said:
Bullcrap. It's not the duty of anyone to turn in anyone based solely on their ethnicity, appearance, or country of origin.

Turns out this upstanding, patriotic, and not at all racist group may be guilty of some data mining.
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Most likely. But... legal or illegal? You say "guilty," as though data mining is a crime. But take a look at this site and its many clones to discover what can be learned for free.

In this case, of course, illegals have an interest in staying off the radar, so I doubt it was as simple as that. But your first comment is that they were turned in based on their "ethnicity, appearance, or country of origin." If the list is indeed mostly illegals, then it's very likely that some additional criteria was used.
 
Shot From Guns said:
I'll thank you to walk your disgusting racist ass right back out the door it snuck in through.

Or you can go hang out with [B]magellan01[/B]. You'd probably have fun tongue-bathing each others' assholes while you jack off to the idea of all the Scary Brown People being shipped back Where They Came From, Constitution be damned.
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Dude, that came from your mind, what ya think'n bout? Can you look thru a one inch water pipe with both eyes?
 
Laudenum said:
I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens reporting illegals to the relevant authorities, no more than I would have a problem with a person who reported that their neighbour was a law-breaker.

It is the duty of every good citizen to report illegals and other lawbreakers, and not turn a blind eye to their activities.
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Seems Hitler and his Nazis, as well as George W. Bush (via his Patritot [Patriot? Really?] Act), said the same thing. I guess you're in good company, no?
 
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