"Concerned Citizens of the United States" Looking Out for Our Interests!

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dmatsch said:
1. No. There are people legally becoming citizens every day of the week, so there indeed exists some system to become a legal naturalized citizen. You know there is. I know there is. Finding this information for all to see is pandering to your attempt at argument.
2a. No. It doesn't take a rocket genius to figure out that non documented (read: non-tax-paying) workers cost the system undue expenses. Every hear of an anchor baby? Who paid for the birth of that baby? When the workers get hurt on the job, and go to the hospital, who do you think pays for that? Do I need to go on?
2b. No. Wage statistics for undocumented workers? Oxy-moron.
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So, in other words, "No, I prefer to wallow in my willful, racist ignorance." You disgust me. Why the hell are you even on this board, if you have interest in learning?

dmatsch said:
Do I think the land beneath my feet is my God given entitlement? Fuck yes. I'm a veteran. You bet your ass it's my EARNED entitlement.
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Unless you fought in WWII (and even that's debateable), you haven't done shit to protect this country. I'm sure you've done some very good work to protect people in other countries, or to defend the economic interests of some strata of American society, but the vast majority of American citizens were not particularly aided by your actions (and were potentially harmed by the loss of the vast resources the military in this country has soaked up).
 
The day I see you mount a similar defense of the people on the list, I'll believe that your motive is pure, unfettered skepticism.
 
Doesn't any sort of lottery basically mean we are coin flipping on whether or not to allow someone. Is that really reasonable? You want to set up a both at the border where hopeful immigrants get to walk up and then flip a coin to see whether to let them in?

"It's tails... Sorry Armando, better luck again next year!"

Isn't that like using a magic 8-ball to make your decisions for you?
 
1300 mexicans? In Utah? Yep, I'm pretty sure that's all of them. Utah is a very very white state.
 
Laudenum said:
I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens reporting illegals to the relevant authorities, no more than I would have a problem with a person who reported that their neighbour was a law-breaker.

It is the duty of every good citizen to report illegals and other lawbreakers, and not turn a blind eye to their activities.
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That's what Hitler and Bush (a la the "Patriot" Act) said.
 
The New York Times says the state says it is pretty obvious where the list came from and the police are looking at one state government department.
 
Laudenum said:
I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens reporting illegals to the relevant authorities, no more than I would have a problem with a person who reported that their neighbour was a law-breaker.

It is the duty of every good citizen to report illegals and other lawbreakers, and not turn a blind eye to their activities.
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That's what Hitler and Bush (a al the Patriot [Patriot]?Act) said.
 
"I see nothing wrong with concerned citizens reporting illegals to the relevant authorities, no more than I would have a problem with a person who reported that their neighbour was a law-breaker.

It is the duty of every good citizen to report illegals and other lawbreakers, and not turn a blind eye to their activities."

Same thing the Nazis and Bush (a la the Patriot [Patriot?] Act) said.
 
DianaG said:
The day I see you mount a similar defense of the people on the list, I'll agree with you.
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So.. my logical claim is correct only if I personally take some action?

The rules of skeptical inquiry and logical analysis are dependent on what I do?

Um...

Wow, are you dumb.
 
niblet_head said:
Yeah, I always wonder why people suspect racism when immigrants are called invaders and characterized as coming to take your nice house from you. :rolleyes:

Someone who uses terms a hair's breadth away from racism, I have no problem believing they're racists.

Of course, YOU won't be able just "digest that fact" without a noxious belch, I'm sure.
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No, sorry but as usual you're full of shit.


You immediatley scream racism every time you haven't got any sort of logical argument to defend what you'd LIKE to believe.

You basically are a coward and a liar.
 
Not dumb enough to fall for your typically disingenuous patented Bricker Bullshit. Nice try though.
 
Lust4Life said:
I've said this before, but I'm always sceptical of the people ardently defending immigration at will to the U.S. when they portray themselves as liberal, defenders of human rights.

How many of these people are actually either illegal immigrants themselves, would be I.M.s, related or friends with I.M.s ?

Or for that matter are unscrupulous employers who exploit them as semi slave labour.
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I always wonder if people who post things like this have been lobotomized, but I know better than to wonder out loud.
 
DianaG said:
Not dumb enough to fall for your typically disingenuous patented Bricker Bullshit. Nice try though.
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So try to focus whatever tiny reasoning ability you have on addressing my point, then.

So far, you've announced you're not dumb enough to fall for my "bullshit," but notably haven't actually said why it's bullshit.

But perhaps if you bluster and say it's "typical Bricker" bullshit, readers won't notice that tiny little omission.
 
dmatsch said:
What the hell does this mean? When I got there? I was born here.

What gives me the right to impose border controls after "I got here"? Uh, maybe because the illegals are starting to cause a serious concern to the economy of this nation.

Do I think the land beneath my feet is my God given entitlement? Fuck yes. I'm a veteran. You bet your ass it's my EARNED entitlement.
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Why do you think being a veteran lends your opinion weight or matters in any way at all?
 
Hey folks, new here but don't let that fool ya.

I saw this on the news this morning and I am all for it, that and what the Governor of Arizona has done. Jump the border and get pregnant, kids born a US citizen and can't be deported, mother is attached to child she get to stay too..

Let it be known, I love my brown brothers, yes I'm a pinky, but the ones that are here taking our jobs Illegally need to be expelled, that goes for anyone here that shouldn't be, ALL OF YOU!!!

The one thing I'd like to ask is does anyone know how I can join the CC-US?
 
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