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Trax27
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I can't understand how people on this board are making such harsh judgements about the guy taking on Bell Expressvu.
I have also been on the receiving end of this "administration fee" and not just once. I'll admit that missing the payments was entirely my fault and there was no excuse, and I was more than happy to pay the overdue interest. I realize that lending money to me (which is what Bell did by giving me time to pay them back) costs Bell money and I was more than happy to repay what that actually cost them.
But for those who haven't had the unfortunate experience of missing payments let me explain what happens to the 33,000 (according to the lawsuit) people who get charged this every month.
After you miss your payment another invoice is printed next month with the outstanding amount. If you pay that invoice ON TIME at the full amount, on your NEXT invoice you have your new charges PLUS the administration fee.
So for example:
Bill issued on January 25: $70 - Not paid
Bill issued on February 25: $140 + 2% overdue interest - Paid in full on time
Bill issued on March 25: $70 + 2% on past overdue + $25 fee
The entire cost to Bell is one phone call mid-way through the second month (in which you are behind) that is made from an automated dialer to remind you that you are behind in payments.
I don't think it's fair for anyone to expect people to pay $25 extra on a $60 bill just because you missed one payment. And even if you do think it's fair, it's CLEARLY interest as defined in the criminal code. The Ontario judge was absolutely correct to find Bell in contravention of the Criminal Code of Canada.
Let's not forget, these laws were enacted to protect consumers from predatory people taking advantage of contracts. Do the math, in the past 6 years Bell has been collecting this "administration fee" they would have made an extra 50 MILLION DOLLARS. And they are treating it as a matter of business, with no intention of actually discontinuing service to a client. That means it's INTEREST on an amount of credit.
Should people pay their bills on time? DEFINITELY
Should people who don't pay their bills on time be charged for the effort the company puts into collecting that bill? DEFINITELY
Should people be forced to pay upwards of 300% interest because they miss a payment? DEFINITELY NOT
For all those people who have said this guy should just learn to pay his bills, I hope this has explained how easy it is for you to fall into this trap. A trap that Bell has setup because they didn't believe they would get caught. Or they were delusional and actually thought their contract wording was enough to confuse the courts. Clearly it wasn't.
I have also been on the receiving end of this "administration fee" and not just once. I'll admit that missing the payments was entirely my fault and there was no excuse, and I was more than happy to pay the overdue interest. I realize that lending money to me (which is what Bell did by giving me time to pay them back) costs Bell money and I was more than happy to repay what that actually cost them.
But for those who haven't had the unfortunate experience of missing payments let me explain what happens to the 33,000 (according to the lawsuit) people who get charged this every month.
After you miss your payment another invoice is printed next month with the outstanding amount. If you pay that invoice ON TIME at the full amount, on your NEXT invoice you have your new charges PLUS the administration fee.
So for example:
Bill issued on January 25: $70 - Not paid
Bill issued on February 25: $140 + 2% overdue interest - Paid in full on time
Bill issued on March 25: $70 + 2% on past overdue + $25 fee
The entire cost to Bell is one phone call mid-way through the second month (in which you are behind) that is made from an automated dialer to remind you that you are behind in payments.
I don't think it's fair for anyone to expect people to pay $25 extra on a $60 bill just because you missed one payment. And even if you do think it's fair, it's CLEARLY interest as defined in the criminal code. The Ontario judge was absolutely correct to find Bell in contravention of the Criminal Code of Canada.
Let's not forget, these laws were enacted to protect consumers from predatory people taking advantage of contracts. Do the math, in the past 6 years Bell has been collecting this "administration fee" they would have made an extra 50 MILLION DOLLARS. And they are treating it as a matter of business, with no intention of actually discontinuing service to a client. That means it's INTEREST on an amount of credit.
Should people pay their bills on time? DEFINITELY
Should people who don't pay their bills on time be charged for the effort the company puts into collecting that bill? DEFINITELY
Should people be forced to pay upwards of 300% interest because they miss a payment? DEFINITELY NOT
For all those people who have said this guy should just learn to pay his bills, I hope this has explained how easy it is for you to fall into this trap. A trap that Bell has setup because they didn't believe they would get caught. Or they were delusional and actually thought their contract wording was enough to confuse the courts. Clearly it wasn't.