Canada = 51st state?
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Once again, I said we should do better to let eligible Mexicans come here legally. Obviously some reform neeRAB to be done.
Once again, I said we should do better to let eligible Mexicans come here legally. Obviously some reform neeRAB to be done.
I didn't use it to justify their poor treatment.
I do, but I care more about my property than letting 200 illegals trample my fence every night.
So it's ok for them to break the law in the US repeatedly since they can't find a good job in Mexico? Is it ok for homeless people to rob people because they need money? There is no excuse for people to break our laws whatsoever. Saying they are in desperation does not justify their constant law-breaking habits. Well if people like you don't mind sharing your hard-earned tax dollars to pay for the treatment of illegals in the US, why don't we just decrease the tax rate now, and generous people like you can pay extra to care for Mexicans? That way I can use the money I worked for the buy gas guzzling cars and huge houses.
And like I said above, I think US corporations who employ illegals in the US should be punished severely. That way illegals have no reason to come here because they won't be offered jobs.
Desparate people are not above the law. Stop using that to justify their illegal immigration here because it simply doesn't work.
Yes it will. My grandfather and grandmother and 2 of my uncles live on enormous farms in Texas. They don't havce problems with illegals because they don't live close to the border. But I can tell you that they have plenty of fences and a large fence encircling their entire farm. Their closest neighbor lives about 1/4 miles down the road. I think they know what their neighbors look like, and in John Ladd Jrs case, I think he knows what 200-300 illegals tearing through his fence look like. If you place signs throughout your fence saying you will shoot, who's fault is it if they disobey your signs?
What is the difference between a dog who will mutilate an illegal and shooting them? I think large signs threatening to kill illegals who come on your property is a good deterent. If they can't understand that and what to test your patience, let them do it. They will soon see what I mean by no trespassing and trespassing illegals will be shot. John Ladd Jr. said he sees 200-300 illegals coming onto his property every night. Does he have to call INS or the police every night? And what are they going to do? They will send them back to Mexico, and in a week they will try again. Illegals don't care about getting stopped. The new plan is to fly them to southern Mexico. And when many of them were interviewed they said they would try again in a week. Sending people back to Mexico does absolutely nothing to deter them from trying again. But shooting a few of them will make the gorup thing twice about ever trying to come through again. How is he not threatened? He has 200-300 immigrants in his yard who could overwhelm him at any time.
The same thing an electric fence or attack dogs will do, both which you suggested were acceptable above. Trust me, I'm a good shot. And I'll aim high, if you know what I mean.
I didn't call everyone that name. I called illegals that name, which is fitting. I didn't suggest calling a legal Mexican in the US that. Either way, I hope a Mexican does punch me in the nose because he might not ever wake up again. I'm 6'2" 225 pounRAB and pretty athletic. I don't see too many Mexicans that can handle this.
Once again, I said we should do better to let eligible Mexicans come here legally. Obviously some reform neeRAB to be done.
I didn't use it to justify their poor treatment.
I do, but I care more about my property than letting 200 illegals trample my fence every night.
So it's ok for them to break the law in the US repeatedly since they can't find a good job in Mexico? Is it ok for homeless people to rob people because they need money? There is no excuse for people to break our laws whatsoever. Saying they are in desperation does not justify their constant law-breaking habits. Well if people like you don't mind sharing your hard-earned tax dollars to pay for the treatment of illegals in the US, why don't we just decrease the tax rate now, and generous people like you can pay extra to care for Mexicans? That way I can use the money I worked for the buy gas guzzling cars and huge houses.
And like I said above, I think US corporations who employ illegals in the US should be punished severely. That way illegals have no reason to come here because they won't be offered jobs.
Desparate people are not above the law. Stop using that to justify their illegal immigration here because it simply doesn't work.
Yes it will. My grandfather and grandmother and 2 of my uncles live on enormous farms in Texas. They don't havce problems with illegals because they don't live close to the border. But I can tell you that they have plenty of fences and a large fence encircling their entire farm. Their closest neighbor lives about 1/4 miles down the road. I think they know what their neighbors look like, and in John Ladd Jrs case, I think he knows what 200-300 illegals tearing through his fence look like. If you place signs throughout your fence saying you will shoot, who's fault is it if they disobey your signs?
What is the difference between a dog who will mutilate an illegal and shooting them? I think large signs threatening to kill illegals who come on your property is a good deterent. If they can't understand that and what to test your patience, let them do it. They will soon see what I mean by no trespassing and trespassing illegals will be shot. John Ladd Jr. said he sees 200-300 illegals coming onto his property every night. Does he have to call INS or the police every night? And what are they going to do? They will send them back to Mexico, and in a week they will try again. Illegals don't care about getting stopped. The new plan is to fly them to southern Mexico. And when many of them were interviewed they said they would try again in a week. Sending people back to Mexico does absolutely nothing to deter them from trying again. But shooting a few of them will make the gorup thing twice about ever trying to come through again. How is he not threatened? He has 200-300 immigrants in his yard who could overwhelm him at any time.
The same thing an electric fence or attack dogs will do, both which you suggested were acceptable above. Trust me, I'm a good shot. And I'll aim high, if you know what I mean.
I didn't call everyone that name. I called illegals that name, which is fitting. I didn't suggest calling a legal Mexican in the US that. Either way, I hope a Mexican does punch me in the nose because he might not ever wake up again. I'm 6'2" 225 pounRAB and pretty athletic. I don't see too many Mexicans that can handle this.
If the Canadian Government does not arrest bUSH for being a war criminal I would still find it verry unbeleivable to think that Canada likes the US enough to think they would like to join them. I think in the age of the Nuclear threat they are probobaly bumbed out they share a border (let alone continent) with the US. I am American and I love Canadians they are great people..
ps. If there are any Canadians here Id like to tip my hat to those of you who did help all the people (and pets) that where in the air over US territory on
9-11. I do not think if the circumstances where switched it would have mimiced that of history.
ps. If there are any Canadians here Id like to tip my hat to those of you who did help all the people (and pets) that where in the air over US territory on
9-11. I do not think if the circumstances where switched it would have mimiced that of history.
pinkymachiney
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Sure OK whatever. I told you money talk puts me to sleep. And I don't get excess. It's like watching somebody gorge themselves at a pie-eating contest. It grosses me out and I just don't get it.
I was explaining that US corporations abusing the Mexican worker IN MEXICO also contribute to the flight north.
Hey President Dink is. He even gets to create laws that disregard the constitutionand stuff.
Plus I am not justifying, I am explaining - and trying to get it through your thick 225 pound head, that it secures my empathy vs. my outrage. I don't think like you. I don't want punish and shoot everything.
Men.
I am assuming the dogs are on the other side of a fence. And electric fences can have warning symbols and don't have to kill.
By the way, your signs are useless if one can't read. Are you aware of how many Mexicans are illeterate?
It's not like here. At all.
And I doubt illegals are coming here to overwhelm ranchers.
Lord.
And is it so much harder to call the cops each night than to sit around and shoot people?
You just want to shoot people.
Men.
Hey. Unless you are of that group it ain't for you to say what is and is not an offensive term.
Plus it's down-right childish.
What grade are we in?
I was explaining that US corporations abusing the Mexican worker IN MEXICO also contribute to the flight north.
Hey President Dink is. He even gets to create laws that disregard the constitutionand stuff.
Plus I am not justifying, I am explaining - and trying to get it through your thick 225 pound head, that it secures my empathy vs. my outrage. I don't think like you. I don't want punish and shoot everything.
Men.
I am assuming the dogs are on the other side of a fence. And electric fences can have warning symbols and don't have to kill.
By the way, your signs are useless if one can't read. Are you aware of how many Mexicans are illeterate?
It's not like here. At all.
And I doubt illegals are coming here to overwhelm ranchers.
Lord.
And is it so much harder to call the cops each night than to sit around and shoot people?
You just want to shoot people.
Men.
Hey. Unless you are of that group it ain't for you to say what is and is not an offensive term.
Plus it's down-right childish.
What grade are we in?
Silly Puddy
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An interesting page on borders. Open/Not open.
http://www.terrorismanswers.org/security/borders.html
It doesn't look like fencing the US in would do anything to stop terrorists.
It looks like we need a better customs system.
So it looks like, SO FAR, no terrorists have made it across our borders and attacked. They have come in through the front door, using "valid" Visas and landing in our airports.
http://www.terrorismanswers.org/security/borders.html
It doesn't look like fencing the US in would do anything to stop terrorists.
It looks like we need a better customs system.
So it looks like, SO FAR, no terrorists have made it across our borders and attacked. They have come in through the front door, using "valid" Visas and landing in our airports.
Allitrya Hallows
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True, theirs is 1/3 the rate of ours. If you look at the numbers, there is about a .4% difference. Why do you even bother showing that, or do you just post stuff and not even read it? You probably did some mysterious conversion in there, since you think you don't need to convert Canadian $ to US $ to compare them :xbye:
True, the numbers you cut and pasted were correct, but you can't compare a Canadian income with a US income unless you convert them to a like currency!! No need to spoon feed, just use a little common sense when you put statistics up there next time.
How do you not understand it? C$73,200 is about US$55,000, which is much less than the average US salary of US$67,000.
It doesn't matter. The salary was in Canadian dollars, therefore to compare salaries in Canada to salaries in the US you have to convert each salary to the same currency, whether it is Mexican pesos, Japanese yen, Canadian dollars, or US dollars.
Common sense. It makes no sense to convert it to US$ if you are comparing 2 Canadians' salaries, but when making the comparison between the US and Canada, you have to convert them. You tried to mislead people by saying that the average Canadian income is $73,200 and that the US income is $67,000. However, you can't compare them like that. In US$, the average Canadian income is $55,000 and the average US income is $67,000. You want to compare them in Canadian dollars, ok. The average Canadian income is C$73,200, and the average US income is about C$85,000. Go to www.worldbank.org, and here's what you will find...
PPP GNI is the Gross National Income converted to international dollars using the purchasing power parity rates. An international dollar has the same purchasing power over GNI as a US dollar has in the US. Now if you look at Canada's PPI GNI, it is $28,000. Look at the US', and it is $36,100. This is in international dollars, meaning each US citizen has about 25% more income.
Oh, so now instead of accepting people's evidence, we say the way it was calculated was bogus. Well it works both ways; if the US GDP is bogus, then so is Canada's, so we're both even.
How do you not understand it? C$73,200 is about US$55,000, which is much less than the average US salary of US$67,000.
It doesn't matter. The salary was in Canadian dollars, therefore to compare salaries in Canada to salaries in the US you have to convert each salary to the same currency, whether it is Mexican pesos, Japanese yen, Canadian dollars, or US dollars.
Common sense. It makes no sense to convert it to US$ if you are comparing 2 Canadians' salaries, but when making the comparison between the US and Canada, you have to convert them. You tried to mislead people by saying that the average Canadian income is $73,200 and that the US income is $67,000. However, you can't compare them like that. In US$, the average Canadian income is $55,000 and the average US income is $67,000. You want to compare them in Canadian dollars, ok. The average Canadian income is C$73,200, and the average US income is about C$85,000. Go to www.worldbank.org, and here's what you will find...
PPP GNI is the Gross National Income converted to international dollars using the purchasing power parity rates. An international dollar has the same purchasing power over GNI as a US dollar has in the US. Now if you look at Canada's PPI GNI, it is $28,000. Look at the US', and it is $36,100. This is in international dollars, meaning each US citizen has about 25% more income.
Oh, so now instead of accepting people's evidence, we say the way it was calculated was bogus. Well it works both ways; if the US GDP is bogus, then so is Canada's, so we're both even.
edwards1337
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You just want to let Mexican immigrants come over here by the millions at their own will?
And I explained that the corporations who violate laws BOTH in Mexico and in the US should be punished.
And I am trying to get it through your heard that I care more about my property than allowing illegals to continually trample my land and destroy my property. And at the same time I am paying for them to live here.
And what if they come across the fence and the dogs eat them? If Mexicans are illiterate, how are they going to read a sign that says "This is an electric fence"? I think if you show a sign with a map of Mexico and show pictures of someone crossing, then going over a fence that looks exactly like yours, then showing a gun, then showing the person dead will deter will be understood. If not, I will put speakers on the fence that say in Spanish and English that trespassers will be shot. It's not just the point of calling the cops every night. The illegals are also tearing up his land, which he can do nothing about. Cops don't fix the fence, and neither do the illegals.
If they're illegals who are tearing up my property and disobeying signs that tell them they will be killed, I have no problem shooting people. If the signs don't serve as a deterrent, my rifle sure will.
And I am trying to get it through your heard that I care more about my property than allowing illegals to continually trample my land and destroy my property. And at the same time I am paying for them to live here.
And what if they come across the fence and the dogs eat them? If Mexicans are illiterate, how are they going to read a sign that says "This is an electric fence"? I think if you show a sign with a map of Mexico and show pictures of someone crossing, then going over a fence that looks exactly like yours, then showing a gun, then showing the person dead will deter will be understood. If not, I will put speakers on the fence that say in Spanish and English that trespassers will be shot. It's not just the point of calling the cops every night. The illegals are also tearing up his land, which he can do nothing about. Cops don't fix the fence, and neither do the illegals.
If they're illegals who are tearing up my property and disobeying signs that tell them they will be killed, I have no problem shooting people. If the signs don't serve as a deterrent, my rifle sure will.
US-.66%
Canada-.48%
There's all of a .18% difference.
That's all of a 2.6% difference
That's all of a .3% difference.
If you want to put out miniscule differences like this, that's pretty sad. Another thing that is sad is your inability to comprehend currency. You can't compare C$ with US$ unless you convert them.
Canada-.48%
There's all of a .18% difference.
That's all of a 2.6% difference
That's all of a .3% difference.
If you want to put out miniscule differences like this, that's pretty sad. Another thing that is sad is your inability to comprehend currency. You can't compare C$ with US$ unless you convert them.
barbhosrika
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The site doesn't say what currency it is in. But if it is in fact in C$, then the average Canadian salary isn't US$31,000, it is more like $US23,000 compared the our national salary average of US$38,000. I can't find anything on the Canadian national debt site that explains what dollars it is in.
Summer is almost here = )
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What??? Canada is not the 51st state? I am sure Australia is the 52nd
Rotties for life!
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Waxy,
What about the hospital that is about to shut down in Bisbee because illegals go there with dehydration after coming across the border, and don't pay anything? What do you say about that?
What about the hospital that is about to shut down in Bisbee because illegals go there with dehydration after coming across the border, and don't pay anything? What do you say about that?
Spaceheart
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Fomous Amos really wants to shoot somebody is all.
I don't even think he lives on the border.......
I don't even think he lives on the border.......
justin_mcnatt
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Actually, 2 of the terrorists who masterminded the first WTC attacks in 1993 applied for visas and had illegally came into the US before through the Mexican border. They were kicked out, and their visas were still pending when the WTC attacks happened. Also, estimates show that each year nearly 100,000 illegals with US criminal recorRAB make it across each year. I don't propose that we put up a fence, because we already have one, ans it doesn't work at all. I think we should reform the system. We should put National Guard troops on the border and beat some sense into the people who try to sneak across. It is a priviliege to come to the US, it's not a right. And if you want to, do it legally. If you don't want to abide by the rules and decide to trespass, we'll just have snipers to pick people off who try to sneak across.
Like I said, I left my TIME magazine at work, so I will give you the exact details.
Like I said, I left my TIME magazine at work, so I will give you the exact details.