Bouquet of Barbed Wire ITV 1

Yes you didn't need it to go further - for me it was the incestuous undertones that made it gripping. The relationships built up gradually and so for a while with the whole "daddy's girl" thing, you couldn't be sure if he was crossing a line with his thoughts. I say, for a while.....:p
 
I also totally agree. The final episode was absurd.
Instead of explaining the characters motives, the whole thing just left you completely bewildered.
Gavin was adopted, his father abuses him, then sexually abuses his adopted sister. Gavin then appears to lay all the blame on Peter, the girl's real father, who gave her up as a student. Surely the targets for his revenge would be the foster parents ?
Then we have Cassie, why did she find Gavin irresistable ?
This guy had beaten her daughter black and blue, more or less ruined their lives, and she still has a morning rough and tumble on the couch with him ? In the original there were hints of a sado-masochistic relationship between both mother/daughter and Gavin, this at least went some way in explaining their strange behaviour. In this version, it just seemed bizarre and unbelievable.

There were some good bits, practically all of them thanks to Trevor Eve. The scene in the car with his son was outstanding, when he stopped and let out that primal, almost silent scream. It really made my hairs stand on end.The desperation of a man who had lost everything has rarely been depicted so well.
There was also the moment when he nearly kisses Prue on the lips, just about realising how far he has gone, and what it meant. But the original was full of such moments, scenes that were uncomfortable but gripping. This was hurried and ultimately unsatisfying in comparison.
 
The original wasn't bad, but this one is miscast and a bit odd. She looks like a librarian and he is old enough to be her grandad. Makes it nice and safe I suppose for the Christian viewer
 
Well said ! i couldnt have put it better myself ! one of the good things about DS is we all have opinions ! on BOBW ! some love it some dont ! tastes vary in all proggrammes ! thats what makes us all differant and not a little bit scary ! :)
 
They also succeeded in making Peter the most sympathetic character out of all of them - no mean feat considering he was meant to be the control freak who was destroying his family from the inside out. By making Gavin the bad guy they altered the whole context of the original.
 
But the problem is, this stuff bears no relation at all to the original, apart from the characters having the same names.:(

If it was at least an improvement on the original plot I wouldn't mind, but this is far from the case.

Edit: Just seen RichmondBlue's post and must say it expresses a lot of how I also feel.
 
I remember seeing clips of the original on some Channel 4 'Sex on TV' thing a few years back. It was unadulterated filth!! Of the extremely close-up bare-bosomed nipples being licked and sucked variety. Viva the 70s.
 
What we've got here is a totally different story with the same name and a couple of themes in common with the original. If it was just a straight remake using the same script but better sets, what would be the point?
I find the characters and their behaviour wholly believable in this remake.

I recently had a look at some clips of the original to refresh my memory. If they showed the original again, I really couldn't put up with all those stagey accents. I suppose it seemed normal to us back then, like the wobbly three-wall sets, but I'm sure that no one in the real world spoke like that in the 1970s.
 
Exactly. A lot of daughters take a keen interest in their father, and vice-versa which doesn't mean incestuous in the slightest. There's nothing so far in this remake to suggest incest between father and daughter.
 
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