Bev Testing MPEG4

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One thing that is often overlooked is that BEV does not own the Nimiq satellites. They never have. Telesat owns them and leases the space exclusively to BEV. I would expect that BEVs costs are related to how much capacity they want to lease, not necessarily how many satellites are in the air. I also expect that in the case of soem of the failures, the cost for replacement or backups becomes Telesat's, not BEVs. (At least that is how I would structure the contract if I were BEV).

So while increased capacity (more slots) increases BEV overhead, replacement satellites for capacity that is already there shouldn't significantly increase their overhead.
 
Personally, this Scott fellow's credentials sound stronger than our resident *C troll's?
 
oh, ohhhhh
do you want a shoe horn to take your foot out
i thought you said that only pirates buy FTA boxes?
would you mind taking a picture of your dishes, or even better, posting your address, so we can see all of the dishes on your home with the aid of google earth?
It seems to me, you are contradicting yourself
"There is nothing from europe worth watching , all the good channels need subscription"
So how do you manage to watch the "good channels" on your FTA box?
Should the Bell Piracy Dept pay a visit to see what you have hooked up?
I mean, you already have the FTA box, and dish, logic would tell me that you ARE stealing Bell, to get some "quality international programming" , correct me if I'm wrong
Or maybe, you are one of the few people, that I was telling you about, that DO watch real FTA?
So what do you watch with your FTA box?
Sounds like pirate jargon to me
Time to walk the plank bev fan
hehehehe
 
My understanding, since around April, has been Bell signalling new boxes for Q4. That's in seven days: that is, a Q3 release is looking rather unlikely. ;)

The retail season really starts to ramp up at the beginning of October so that is a sensible time for Bell to bring out these "updates" (remember that one Bell executive formally stated NO NEW MODELS were coming out in 2007 but referred, instead, to "updated models"). At the least this would be the HD PVR originally leaked/rumoured in January which is MPEG4 capable and has a 30 hr HD record time hard drive -- the ViP 622, IIRC.

But it sounds like, if Bell has now decided on the colour of the shipping box, that things are getting really, really close. Having approved the sale of the company on Friday, anything's possible now! :eek:
 
BEV will give you answers when they are ready.Right now no EV customer has new MPEG4 receiver nor are they available to buy so there is no point telling everybody what is going on with MPEG4 , or if they are testing it.Right now it does not have any effect on BEV customers and they should be first one to get informed once everything is ready.
 
Any chance you have a plan to bring them down even further from the inside?

We all know that they need to start testing MPEG4 now to have it anywhere near remotely working for 2009.
 
We have to remember that *C just forced many of their subscribers to switch to new receivers (and pay for them) just to get the same programming they already get. If Bell is going to force people to buy receivers just to get some more HD, I see that as not as bad as the former example.
 
I seem to remember Telesat cutting Bev a fat cheque when N2 had issues. They then were using the money to finance one of the new satellites going up. All of it was just an accounting scheme while Bell owned Telesat. But at least up till now I think it required a big pile of money up front to get things rolling.

Funny things is when Bev got the money back I don't remember my bill going down. Curious.:rolleyes:
 
Glad to see that we have a number of law enforcement people looking for criminals in the postings!
 
The SRDU Site said a commercial 8psk-T.C. receiver (Sencore MRD 3187B-BEV) will be available early next year. There is nothing on that site that suggests they will be broadcasting in 8psk early next year.

in context
 
First generation EV Mpeg 4 receiver, one can just imagine the troubleshooting and tech support adventures to follow!
No doubt a tech support sticky will be up the same day.

Sorry, me and my chronically freezing purchased 6100 couldn't resist!!
 
Don't forget that Starchoice charged DSR500 customers for the 8PSK upgrade, so it's not unprecedented. Personally I think there will at least be discounts.

-Mike
 
I guess Bev's plan will be:

1. In 2008, when nimiq 4 launchs to 82w to replace nimiq 2 (which is very likely to be moved to 91w to backup nimiq 1), it will change some transponders on 82w to 8psk but stay mpeg2. That will add about 30 HD channels.
2. In 2009, when nimiq 5 launchs to 72.5w, it then may change to mpeg4 or still stay at mpeg2 for a while.
 
U meant 900Mhz..450 up and 450 down?

If DBS and Ku band is 27Mhz..how many HD channels could U squeeze in one 27Mhz.???

thx for advance of the info.
 
that is for the turbo 8psk, I think
great for mpeg 2, i think (Which all expressvu receivers were, until the 6141, 9242)
this upgrade is to change the compression format from MPEG 2, to MPEG 4
The 8psk is for the signal modulation, not compression format
Take this post with a grain of salt, as I dont' know if I'm making any sense
:D
 
So do I.

I could be wrong but with 2 or 3 years to go, I cannot see any logic in dashing out to buy a receiver that does only a little more (the 9242 Vs the 9200) or no more for me (6100 Vs 6141) until I either really need to, or I get an offer from Express Vu.
 
The receivers have probably been debugged at Dish, but who knows what changes Bev makes to them when they come across the border.
Typically, features are removed, so anything is possible.

Even if they could get stb's out in time, and their are no issues, there are the MPEG4 encoders operations and adjustments needed.

I've been reading other forums reports about their MPEG4 and this strange 720i showing up.

So how does an OEM box handle 720i?
What might they have mis configured in the encoder to make it say 720i?
Or are they planning on trying to pass off HD-Lite?

Maybe since DTV was OK with HD-Lite and they do the NFLST thing, then they figure it's OK for us 2nd class Canucks.

Imagine of they do that for NHLCI?
You DON'T want to be screwing with Canada's national game.
 
CRTC would never allow BEV and *C to merge , as it could benefit sat providers , it would not necessarily be good news for satellite customers.Having one privider means there would be no competition and no choice . People living in rural areas would have only one provider.It is always better for customers to have a choice, since sat customers like different providers for different reasons.
 
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