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Pawns dont usually yell and scream and stamp their feet.
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jvillain
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If it is I will cancel and mail the CRTC.
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ARR
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Even a better explanation than my Engineer mentor provided me several years ago.
Great post there Hurricane!
Great post there Hurricane!
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7FC
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Most Satellite transmits around 500Mhz . I wonder how Bell squeeze so many channels without loosing any resolutions?
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SensualPoet
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Well, according to your public profile, you live in central Connecticut and, therefore, you don't subscribe to Bell ExpressVu NOR are you a member of Bell's senior management NOR a third party installer or otherwise directly in the ExpressVu sales stream or retail environment where folks might have advance information.
I have no doubt you are knowledgable about the US satellite industry and, to that degree, how that applies to Bell and its quasi-affiliate relationship with DishNet.
None of that, however, indicates your certainty of what Bell ExpressVu WILL do (as opposed to what they might be capable of doing).
I have no doubt you are knowledgable about the US satellite industry and, to that degree, how that applies to Bell and its quasi-affiliate relationship with DishNet.
None of that, however, indicates your certainty of what Bell ExpressVu WILL do (as opposed to what they might be capable of doing).
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DrAkO
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I'm not sure if it's the good term in english (in french we say "donnez la chance au coureur"), but, give him a chance, he try to put some positive feedback here...
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ARR
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from Bev's # 1 fan and flag waver.
The nice thing about being first is by the time any MPEG4 comes on your unit, it will be out of warranty and may have been broken all along and you never new for sure if MPEG4 actually works before it's too late.
Many that have gone before you have payed a high price to be early adopters of new untested (by bev) technology.
I'm sure it might be a great box, but my enthusiasm is tempered by reality and history.
The nice thing about being first is by the time any MPEG4 comes on your unit, it will be out of warranty and may have been broken all along and you never new for sure if MPEG4 actually works before it's too late.
Many that have gone before you have payed a high price to be early adopters of new untested (by bev) technology.
I'm sure it might be a great box, but my enthusiasm is tempered by reality and history.
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Tom.F.1
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yes, the MPEG4 transition will be a good thing, someday..... Isn't more HD the holy grail?
I don't know why anybody might be upset that bell hasn't released a plan. How could they possibly release a plan that isn't finalized yet?
Wouldn't be any sense in guessing about a plan that isn't ready yet. Or if you've got the plan, why not work for bell and get paid for working on it.
And in the end, it doesn't matter what the plan is, there will be lots of critisism. We as the consumer have a choice. Take it or leave it.
I don't know why anybody might be upset that bell hasn't released a plan. How could they possibly release a plan that isn't finalized yet?
Wouldn't be any sense in guessing about a plan that isn't ready yet. Or if you've got the plan, why not work for bell and get paid for working on it.
And in the end, it doesn't matter what the plan is, there will be lots of critisism. We as the consumer have a choice. Take it or leave it.
I would expect (and it has been mentioned by several others, including yourself I think) that the most likely situation will be that 81 will become a national slot with 72.5 and 92 serving east and west respectively.
Because you're right, the elevation from the west coast to 72.5 is only about 14 degrees which is going to cause issues.
Because you're right, the elevation from the west coast to 72.5 is only about 14 degrees which is going to cause issues.
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ARR
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This is now and I'm now a King.
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SensualPoet
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*sigh*
Yes, I read Scott's post.
In six weeks we will know if there are, indeed, a new "package of MPEG-4 HD channels" to purchase. Any details on price and channels? That's mysteriously missing from the "rumour". Since 4 channels are "free" now; and another dozen or so are included in the $10/mth programming package; how much more are you willing to pay for the new 2nd HD Channel Package Scott is promising?
Hands up all who want to rush to Bell World and buy a new $600 HD PVR in order to see them? If it's an upgrade path: how long to get the technician in, how much to install, how long to wait for a credit, are stocks of available in my area, how much of the $600 do I have to pay?
No credible source from Bell has promised MPEG-4 receivers/PVRs in Sep. Not one. The best has been reliable second-hand reports of Q4 (aka Oct-Dec). The same sources have universally reported 2009 for MPEG-4 signals in HD. A Bell spokesman in April categorically denied ANY new models of HD receivers/PVRs in 2007 from Bell, leaving open the possibility of an "updated" model this year.
So maybe Bell IS testing MPEG-4 signals on a transponder on the 82
Yes, I read Scott's post.
In six weeks we will know if there are, indeed, a new "package of MPEG-4 HD channels" to purchase. Any details on price and channels? That's mysteriously missing from the "rumour". Since 4 channels are "free" now; and another dozen or so are included in the $10/mth programming package; how much more are you willing to pay for the new 2nd HD Channel Package Scott is promising?
Hands up all who want to rush to Bell World and buy a new $600 HD PVR in order to see them? If it's an upgrade path: how long to get the technician in, how much to install, how long to wait for a credit, are stocks of available in my area, how much of the $600 do I have to pay?
No credible source from Bell has promised MPEG-4 receivers/PVRs in Sep. Not one. The best has been reliable second-hand reports of Q4 (aka Oct-Dec). The same sources have universally reported 2009 for MPEG-4 signals in HD. A Bell spokesman in April categorically denied ANY new models of HD receivers/PVRs in 2007 from Bell, leaving open the possibility of an "updated" model this year.
So maybe Bell IS testing MPEG-4 signals on a transponder on the 82
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Nemnoch
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Hugh, OM is the ordering tool. OM updates are a software update to that tool.
This memo states that BELL should be recieving the new recievers but that the update has been done in OM 3 months ahead in order to accomodate the amount of programming updates available in the tool.
At the time this internal memo came out, it was still up in the air as to whether BELL would be recieving the actual recievers or not, and when they might be launching but they were getting prepared for the eventual shift to the recievers in the ordering system. Q3 was a tentative launch date at best.
I'm not denying that BEV will be going to MPEG4, I'm just saying that there is a misunderstanding of what the memo actually meant.
'you will encounter one of the following MPEG4 receivers, models 6141, 9241, and 9242, in place of the current 6100 or 9200 model receivers for all HD installation orders.'
That line in particular means that on their work orders they will see the terms 6141 instead of 6100, but all it means is the customer is having a 6100 installed.
Nem, who says clarification is a good thing
This memo states that BELL should be recieving the new recievers but that the update has been done in OM 3 months ahead in order to accomodate the amount of programming updates available in the tool.
At the time this internal memo came out, it was still up in the air as to whether BELL would be recieving the actual recievers or not, and when they might be launching but they were getting prepared for the eventual shift to the recievers in the ordering system. Q3 was a tentative launch date at best.
I'm not denying that BEV will be going to MPEG4, I'm just saying that there is a misunderstanding of what the memo actually meant.
'you will encounter one of the following MPEG4 receivers, models 6141, 9241, and 9242, in place of the current 6100 or 9200 model receivers for all HD installation orders.'
That line in particular means that on their work orders they will see the terms 6141 instead of 6100, but all it means is the customer is having a 6100 installed.
Nem, who says clarification is a good thing
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ARR
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Thought those following MPEG4 technology might find this interesting.
It's from Today's issue of SkyReport
It's from Today's issue of SkyReport
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I_Want_My_HDTV
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The services would still be "equal and national." Just a little more equal in some places where they are more popular.
The 72.5 sat is receivable on the west coast. It is not as easy to get line of sight as 91 but not impossible. It is certainly no worse that any sat in the northern territories. It is perfectly positioned to serve Quebec and the east coast so why not put eastern Canada services there? Unfortunately, US ISPs have positions west of 91.
The 72.5 sat is receivable on the west coast. It is not as easy to get line of sight as 91 but not impossible. It is certainly no worse that any sat in the northern territories. It is perfectly positioned to serve Quebec and the east coast so why not put eastern Canada services there? Unfortunately, US ISPs have positions west of 91.
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scrooloose
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Folks, don't you think it's possible someone misinterpreted what they saw re: 720i? Relax, some people just like to stir the **** for nothing!
-Mike
-Mike
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majortom
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check again...
www.lyngsat.com lists all frequencies
www.lyngsat.com lists all frequencies
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TJ77
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*C forced an upgrade so they can switch to 8psk, therefore adding more HD, not just for the fun of forcing an upgrade. Bell is in the same situation.
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ARR
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And the # of swaps was quite small since the 505/530 were already 8PSK units.
In addition, that clears the way for a NO SWAP MPEG4 upgrade when it's needed.
Unfortunately for Bell, the longer they wait, the bigger the challenge.
Too bad their crippled birds didn't allow a much easier 8PSK upgrade, that could have offered a much more immediate bandwidth relief.
To try this type of upgrade during the re-acclimation with new owners has got to be stressful.
In addition, that clears the way for a NO SWAP MPEG4 upgrade when it's needed.
Unfortunately for Bell, the longer they wait, the bigger the challenge.
Too bad their crippled birds didn't allow a much easier 8PSK upgrade, that could have offered a much more immediate bandwidth relief.
To try this type of upgrade during the re-acclimation with new owners has got to be stressful.
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Nimiq 1
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I was reading on the Bell SRDU Site yesterday and they are going to be offering 8PSK Turbo early next year.....
Now, is 8PSK available for MPEG2 transmissions, or it it ONLY MPEG4.?
I guess this will coincide with the introduction of Nimiq 4 into service.
Now, is 8PSK available for MPEG2 transmissions, or it it ONLY MPEG4.?
I guess this will coincide with the introduction of Nimiq 4 into service.