Bev Testing MPEG4

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I agree ARR, if they choose to go the incentive route they are taking a risk, how close do they cut the deal, what is the magic price point between alienation and retention?
Obviously the heavier the incentive the better the deal, if it's too tight they alienate and loose the re-occurring income of the monthly subscription.

At the very least it shall be interesting to watch unfold, both in the technology respect as well as the business case.
 
I would suggest you go see a shrink for schizophrenia, your worried about NOTHING. Bell is not going to click there fingers and flip everything over to MPEG4 overnight.

As I have said before and like the other satellite providers have done is they have launched NEW channels in MPEG4, this allows people to upgrade their equipment over time (because they want the new channels) after a period of time (many months) then they would then slowly start converting existing MPEG2 HD channels to MPEG4. But by then many folks will have MPEG4 receivers, those who don't will be given chances to upgrade. If they don't then they lose those channels when they are switched.

Again its not going to happen over night. Its a very long process. Dish Network has been doing this for 2 years now and still not all the MPEG2 HD has been moved to MPEG4. However with that said it is expected that all the HD MPEG2 will be moved to MPEG4 by the end of the year.
 
Would it be like if they moved there NFL Sunday ticket HD games to mpeg4 and anybody that wants these channels would have to upgrade to an mpeg4 receiver?Doesn't the NFL demand that there product be secured so that no one can pirate Sunday Ticket?
 
Not sure why there would be any interest in Dish Testing MPEG4, as they already use it for there HD channels on the other birds.

More likely just testing the Echostar 6 bird, nothing more.

Bell do not have anything at 72.7 yet and will not until Nimiq 5 gets there sometime in the future.
 
If that is what Bev starts broadcasting and calling HD, I guarantee you it won't be what I will be watching. The flipping CRTC regs flat out state that Bev isn't allowed to down grade the signal and I am willing to make the CRTC, my MP and any one else I need to miserable in order to make sure that doesn't happen.
 
It is likely that BEVs migration to using 8psk will follow a transition to DVB-S2 from the current DVB-S. The currently used DVB-S standard doesn't use Turbo codes but rather a concatenated Viterbi-Reed Solomon error correction. DVB-S2 supports adaptive coding and modulation using a Bose-Chaudhuri-Hochquenghem code with LDPC which is more efficient than Turbo codes for high capcity channels.

It sounds as though the the transition to MPEG4 will coincide with the transition to DVB-S2. Keep in mind that with MPEG4, when there are burst errors, becasue there is higher compression of the video signal, it will be more noticeable.

Purely speculation however.
 
For customers who prefers to purchase the receivers, they could offer a rebate, i don't know, 50% for example.
 
Ch 888....is actually an internal test channel and is not mpeg4. Its actually set up in a test rack...and definately does not have an mpeg4 encoder..so why it would say that is wierd. As for 720i, again its an internal test channel and the settings on the encoders change as needed for whatever tests are happening.
 
Sure can Mozza, I'll try to get it scanned later today!
PS: Not sure if this is cosher in this thread but you can also check over in the Shaw boards, there's a newer thread going on the same deal.
For the record, I have Shaw internet and Bell tv, Shaw has been trying to get me to flip for years and has offered many different pkg's.
 
Not to mention the fact that I am unaware of any display that can process a 720i input and provide a useable picture. Makes no sense to me as well.
 
And the goal of your frenzied enthusiasm is ... ?

No doubt the MPEG-4 HD PVRs from Bell will be a nice new toy. But what's the rush if there are no new signals to watch? Or if they are just the same signals, transmitted in MPEG-4 instead of MPEG-2? Or, for that matter, only MPEG-2? The rush delivers what prize in this case?
 
72.5 is going to be very dicey out West if at all.

And if they around in a couple of years, who knows, the market may look a lot different.
Things they are a changing.

Maybe they will do MPEG4 on 72.5 and then they can charge an arm and a leg and hide the cost that way as they'll need a new dish and lnb and of course, professional installation.
They seem to think their subs are gullible.
 
Been watching DN MPEG4 for a while now.
All they are talking about is switching their VOOM services to MPEG4 in a few weeks.
In fact some of it is UP already with TST channel headers in preparation, but stations like ESPN2 have been MPEG4 for a while now.

According to Scrooloose's definition of a troll, you'd certainly qualify.
But don't worry, I told him you were harmless. :rolleyes:
 
Perhaps you can start with HDNET and RUSH and a few others.

Maybe Rush doesn't count as I'm comparing the VOOM/Dish delivered version against the HiFidelty/Bev delivered version.
 
Seriously, I wish the moderator of this forum would watch what ARR posts. I don't know how many times he's suggested that BEV subscribers and mentally challenged. Disgusting.

If BEV is in fact testing MPEG4 signals, that can only be a good thing. I seriously doubt that BEV would flag any channel something other than what it actually was. Contrary to ARR's belief system, BEV is not in fact evil incarnate.

BEV still has more HD channels than the other national satellite provider, and is taking steps to increase that number of HD channels. Again, how is this a bad thing? They will keep the compression levels at an acceptable rate, only because they know people do have choice at some point in their subscription. Besides that, most normal, non-technical folk couldn't tell much difference between a pure uncompressed signal and a well-compressed one.

Let's assume that BEV has done more than their marketing right for once, to have the customer base they enjoy today.
 
Dish quietly launches Eastern Arc - all around MPEG4/8PSK/Nagra3 service - for new subscribers in select cities.
Using the 72.7 satellite (in addition to the 61.5 and 77)...
 
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