AZ to propose a law that would deny citizenship to children of illegals

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So many dumb, illegal immigrant coddling fuckwads in this thread. The very act of them being over here is illegal. The anchor baby loophole gets exploited far too often here. The vast majority of immigrants do not create a net gain for society, only a drain. We don't need to be paying for their medical bills and food while they take American citizens jobs and send all the money back home. Fuck that.

If they want to live here, they can go through the steps to be here legally.
 
Thanks for putting it in simpler terms.

Seems like it's going to drawn out for a while on the issue of babies of illegals.
 
2003 statistics, I used 2008. It's 1.00 times the national avg according to that site. I said it wasn't much higher, but higher nonetheless. And that means it is average using either set of statistics, meaning there are plenty of safer places that fall below the national average.
 
I can't wait for this shit to hit the Supreme court either way, trying to fuck with my cheap labor when I need a fence put up or grass cut.
 
You're right, however, these people are often uneducated and don't even know their options upon arriving.

I think legalizing everyone who is already here makes sense, however I don't think legalizing everyone period is appropriate, unless you want most of Mexico suddenly leaving and coming here because it's convenient.

What it comes down to is money will have to be spent, whether we like it or not. Money should -- in my opinion -- be spent on enhancing one on one interactions between immigrants and case workers who aren't paid 10 cents an hour. A lot of people would pursue a career in immigration if it were an actual "education". They'd learn spanish, learn about laws pertaining to immigration, psychological evaluation, and methods of investigating and understanding the laws of which the illegal originally lived. Investigation should find whether these people left a life without any opportunity to survive, or whether they can be deported and survive in a humane and appropriate. Basically, a form of social work, which is a field that a lot of people like. I'm sure many hispanics would love to fill these jobs if they were once affected by it. Many people tend to become passionate of things that hit home personally.

This is expensive, like someone else said (NEM said it I think) therefore difficult to sell to politicians or even most of you (OT in general).
 
this is just posturing anyways. you'd have to change the constitution, which is not gonna happen.
 
we have more than we could ever need, I see no problem letting people try to make a better life for themselves
 
If this law passes, all the descendants of slaves born in Africa would be stripped of their citizenship?
 
http://travel.state.gov/law/info/overseas/overseas_705.html



Diplomats are a very particular case and are treated differently.
 
Which is why we need better borders and better resources at catching illegals.

Like a $100 bounty for each one you turn in. I can make 4 grand today if they had something like that.
 
the degree of stupid in this thread from Joe Cool is astounding...

is he proposing that, since you have to be legal in america to register for school, that we continue to allow the illegals to run rampant (since we obviously can't keep a track of them without them being citizens) AND be uneducated? lol
 
But really, why are people who are born here automatically considered American citizens??? If a German couple is here for vacation and have a baby then all the sudden their kid is American? That makes no sense.
 
makes sense

hell, they come over and have kids immediately.

makes them feel entitled to being a citizen or something, fuck that. send them all back to mexico and bill the country for our labor.
 
on this joke of a political stunt, or on immigration law overall?


on immigration law overall, we need to make the system faster, easier, and more accepting of latin-american immigrants. we need guest worker programs and we need to allow a reasonable number of the uneducated poor in. only then can border security be applied to drug crime, where it can actually be useful.



on the whole, though, i'm a global open borders kind of guy it will never be a pragmatic solution to any real-world problems, though.
 
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