Atheists: Do you believe 'reality' can 'exist' without conscious perception?

reality only exists as a system of information which is then processed to construct the dimensions of what we perceive to be 'physical nature', however 'information' is only a concept which cannot exist without 'logic' which requires 'thought'.

with this established, (logic enables conscious perception which enables existence) WHY DOES LOGIC EXIST?
if the additional description is too much for you, just answer the main question, champ.
reality only exists WITHIN it's audience, that's exactly what I was establishing for you all.
 
You started well....

In a sense, no. Here's my personal opinion: all possible universes exist, but only in an abstract mathematical sense. However, some of those possible universes have laws and conditions which allow the spontaneous appearance of self-awareness. To the self-aware being, only its particular reality is real because it cannot perceive any of the others, so in a sense perception creates reality, although there is a deeper reality which we cannot perceive directly but we can infer the existence of.

Then you went off the rails a bit...

"'information' is only a concept which cannot exist without 'logic' which requires 'thought'"

That's an unfounded assertion which is demonstrably untrue. The universe contained information long before there were thinking beings in it.
 
Sorry dave, you've confused "how it is" with "how we percieve it is."

Info does not require thought.

DNA passes on info without any thought at all.

"with this established"

But it's not is it, as I've just demonstrated.
Macroscopically, the universe and everything in it does not require our observation of it to exist, however, our perception of the universe DOES require our observation to exist.

Hope this clears things up.
 
Mmmmm...
The old 'if a tree falls in a forest with nobody about, does it make a noise?' question.

Reality exists whether anyone is aware or not.
Reality doesn't need an audience.
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"with this established"

Nothing was established.

You also have no idea how to use quotation marks.

Reality exists. Deal.
 
No,i do not think so that reality can be existed with out strong idea or perception.A reality and a practicable work needs a proper plan with strong perception in beginning.Later you do able to perform the activity.So i am not in favor of this.
 
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