Are you for a Constitutional Amendment banning burning the flag?

I agree 100% with Jim, whom I'm sure is a GOPer, but I am called a socialist for having the same beliefs. I wonder if Jim would be called a Socialist also.

Our Constitution has served us well for over 200 years, with very little tinkering; why do it now ?
 
And you would shoot the nazi storm trooper who was just doing his job by gassing those jews??

Of course. A police officer upholding such a law is a disgrace to this country and the tool of an opressive regime. I would kill them with the same joy I would pull the trigger on any tyrant, or tool of a tyrant.

The only difference between the cop arresting people for breaking legislated patriotism and the nazi gassing the jews is one of scale. One of the first laws passed by both Italy and Nazi germany were laws prohibiting desecration of state symbols.
 
You obviously know nothing about Texas if you base your opinion solely on that story. I have visited all of this great country and have found us to be more alike than different.
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Enlighten me then. Are you placing the flag above the country? Is it your GOD? Did you save the flag in some drunken skirmish? Are you telling me that you actually would die for a piece of cloth and rather than your country. Please I really want to know.


You are right about one thing I don't have a clue about blind devotion to an object, wether it be book, flag, or paper.
 
Sorry, but some perversions weren't commonplace back then. It took our "modern liberalism" to degenerate to that point. :rolleyes:
 
Has nothing to do with "equality of speach" whatever that is. It has to do with someone having paid their dues for our speach and being respected for doing so.
 
What you fail to realize in your hate the military, hate the U.S. rants is a huge amount of us believe its more then just a piece of cloth.......

You will never understand that....

Bottom line is this amendment is going to pass and we will just see what you people that want to burn the flag do then..............
 
I think that who deserves and gets respect is a very subjective thing. What I find respect-worthy will not be the same for anyone else. Although collectivelty I respect those who serve - I don't know that I would respect each of them individually.

For example, maybe Joe Schmoe served in WWII, but then came home, beat his wife, and did not support his kiRAB. I don't care what he did in WWII - I wouldn't respect a person like that.

And maybe Jack Schmoe went to Canada during Vietnam because he disagreed with the war - but has spent his entire life working with special neeRAB children. I would respect a person like that.
 
What a crock of garbage........ :rolleyes: But what else is new?

I wish you would face up to some of these support people and tell them they are not worthy instead of hiding bhind your monitor and spewing your hate..........

I personally don't believe you know anyone in the military that you have susch disdain for...........If you did you would surely have know what a non com was........
 
I am not sure that anybody here has said they want to burn the flag.

You ared missing the point. Burning the flag is, IMO, a despicable act. I odn't even see it as a valid form of protest in this country because people fail to make the connection between the burning flag and whatever is being protested.

The RIGHT to burn the flag is indicitive of the free society in which we live and as such is indespensible.

thsi si not just a question of whether or not we want people burning the flag or not. This is a question of whther the entire premise of our rights based system is faulty. The flag burning amendment does EXACTLY the same thing that an amendment bannign guns would do. It invalidates our entire system. Allow me to explain:

Our entire rights based model is essentially based on the premise that people posess natural rights. These are rights that are absolutly inviolate. Our forefathers roecognised these rights by enshringing them in the Bill of Rights. One of those rights is the right of free expression. Under our current system, this is a right granted by god just for the fact you are born. Everybody has this right, and it cannot be modified by man.

An amendment to ban flag burning throws that out the window. As soon as you put such an amendment in the constitution, you are essentially switching to a soveirgn rights system, where only the governement has true rights,and they "grant" right to the people as they please (and a right that is "granted" is no right at all).

Passage of this amendment will throw hundreRAB of years of judicial precedent out the window. The courts have consistently ruled that the bill of rights is not modifiable because the rights enshrined there are not created or granted by men, therefore they cannot be modified by men. If you start adding amendments that specifically modify the bill of rights, that all goes away.

The true test of a free society is NOT in allowing people to do things that please you, it is allowing people to do things that you find extremely objectionable.

If you are not willing to fight for the freedom of the gay guy down the street to get married, or the protester who wants to burn the flag, or the KKK nutjobs that want to hold a parade, what makes you think that you deserve any freedoms? What makes their behavior that you find objectionable any difference than your behavior that others find objectionable?

Personally, I find a lot of your posts objectionable (and stupid). That does not mean that I should be able to shut you up. Quite the contrary. I would stand with you against any attempt by anybody to shut you up because while I think you are a stupid jackass, you have a right to express your opinions and to be heard.

I actually believe in rights and freedom, and that includes the rights and freedoms of those who I disagree with. You on the other hand only seem to believe that those who agree with you should have rights.
 
I don't think there has ever been an anti-military protest. Maybe a protest against a war, but that's not against the military, but the government. There's a difference.
 
All the Socialist leftists that protest against our military, country, and desecrate the American Flag and the people that support them doing so.......
 
What's next, the right to speak out against a sitting Government ?

I can understand your position VOR, but flags are just symbols. Its the rights the citizens enjoy that make the country great not the flag.

What is more insidious about this is that you have the political establishment trying to strip rights away from the citizen. Is there any opposition to this on Capitol Hill ?
 
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