Apple iPhone 3G [S] vs. HTC/Google Nexus One

Hey, I'm an iPhone devotee, and I don't like being elitist about it.

Advertising is something most smartphone makers don't do, at least not in North America. That's partly why the Droid is doing so well versus the technically superior Nexus One: people know the phone exists! Much of the same is true for RIM as well. The one exception is Palm, to some extent, but it doesn't have the money it once did. We'll see how the Verizon webOS phones fare.
 
If there was one on AT&T I might buy one to occasionally switch to when I want to use something other than my iPhone, but for the most part I like my iPhone and everytime I switch to another phone I find myself right back where I started. When another phone can duplicate my personal iPhone experience and maybe improve on it then I'll consider another device full-time, until Android, webOS and the like will have to be part-time.
 
Ok maybe you did read what I said... I was referring to multitasking... The phone OSes I listed do it WITHOUT A HACK... get it? and lets not mention customizing of notification sounds lol... you need a hack to do that? voip? lol you need to hack to use that... can you install a different SMS app? not without a hack... what about homescreen wallpapers? not without a hack...


Since you mention non-tech savy.. if i was a non-tech savy person i would ask why I even need a hack in order to get what the next guy gets on his blackberry or andriod without it? A non tech savy person is not likely to jailbreak... because the term "hack" and "void warranty"... those are scary terms to the "average" user...


Oh examples... hmmm how about the implementation of google services I mentioned above? is a jailbroken iphone better than the nexus? heck is a iphone with mobile me better than nexus/google services?

what about widgets?
live wallpapers?
what about a jailbroken phones notification system? can you see and select different notifications while in another app? lets say someone text, emails, tweets and you finish a download... can you check anyone of them with exiting pandora?

Can you mount it as a hard drive and drag and drop files at will?
can you delete songs and pictures off the phone without it being connected to itunes or a computer?


Ill wait for you answers.... :2thumbs:
 
There's no "killer" of anything, unless it's the maker themselves. Any phone maker who gets complacent about updates, loses sales.

Ditto for not being widely available on all carriers. Palm is going to do so much better now that Verizon and AT&T will be selling their phones.

Besides, competition doesn't come one device at a time. A couple of million Droids here, a million Eris there, another million Pres over yonder... pretty soon all those little millions add up to many millions of sales... that Apple isn't getting.
 
No biggies, I was just pointing to an article that dealt spefically with the cameras on each phone.

I do agree that nokia cameras are ridiculous, I came from a n82 and it was excellent.
 
A few things here:

The Nexus One isn't twice as fast as an iPhone 3GS. I've seen side-by-side browser tests: the Nexus One can be faster, but only slightly. Image quality is also debatable too, since Nexus One shots can be noisy where iPhone 3GS shots are fairly clean. I won't dispute that the RAM, AMOLED screen and (for now) Android multitasking are definite edges for Google's phone.

No, it's not a matter of time before Android Market crushes the App Store. It could happen, but Google needs to improve its presentation and encourage major developers to write code in droves; they have some, but only a fraction of what Apple does. Apple thrives on integration and presentation, and right now Android Market still feels more like a hobbyist's paradise than a place your mother would trust.

Apple is better at a lot more than just profit-taking (remember, Google is in this to make money, too). Its interface is even more straightforward than Google's, and it understands the software side of things much better. Google's OS independence is nice, but the copmany has no idea how to do anything that doesn't involve the cloud: there's no such thing as direct computer sync in Android land. As of today, Android still appeals more to alpha geeks than to the everyday user both in the UI and just in focus.

And don't confuse changes you've seen to the iPhone so far with what Apple will do in the future. The iPhone 3GS' changes were relatively subtle (though it's *much* faster), but most of us are expecting a more tangible refresh in mid-2010. Don't be surprised if there's a higher-res screen, a faster-still processor and the 5-megapixel camera with flash; all of those have not only been rumored but are actually quite achievable.

Before I go too far into defending the iPhone, I personally want both platforms to succeed and have an absolutely fierce jonesing for the Nexus One. Both Android and iPhone are great software and are forcing people to rethink what they use a phone for.
 
You better believe it. Otherwise, music quality will be determined by CPU processing power. Which is not the case.



RSS, Twitter, web pages with Flash, and I'm sorry, I do watched videos on the iPod Touch and when notifications do come in, they are affected though only for a short moment. So I don't personally believe you on that regard.

I have also seen music affected at the exact moment when the iPod Touch senses Wifi and activates the Wifi connection. Its slight but its there.




It can multitask yes. But once it starts multitasking many apps, it just won't become that smooth.



On the iPhone, weather is not displayed all the time nor does it obtain info as a background process. Even if the OS is made to multitask on a jailbreak, iPhone apps are still not written fundamentally to work on the background. You're just task switching one foreground task runner after another. Your weather app only obtains info when it was launched.

And yes, you get pushed alerts on your news and IM apps. I do the same on my iPod Touch no differently. But again, you still don't have any idea what a unified notification time line is. When you get a notification on the iPHone, it only displays in the front screen, transparent, disappears when you launch an app. At the same time, that notification makes the previous notification disappear, which in turn buries the next previous notification.

There is no combined timeline that would say:

SMS from Wife at 1:00pm
CNN: breaking news at 12:05pm.
Twitter reply from @dave at 11:30am.

and so on that collectively puts all events into a single log.



The end result never had equal functionality. Iphone UI doesn't have stuff like animated wallpapers or live widgets of various sizes in the interface.



I never stated that the iPhone OS isn't the smoothest OS, what I stated it achieves it smoothness by prioritizing more clock cycles to the input queue compared to every other OS out there. If you do the same on other OSes, you can achieve a similar level of smoothness.
 
Not sure how you figure they didn't tell people about it. TV ads aren't the only way to get your message across. Media coverage helps quite a bit and I'm not aware of a single major news outlet that didn't report the release of the device. Google put it on their homepage and dang near every other Adwords ad! How is that not advertising?

Not being good at something doesn't mean they didn't try. They didn't put the money into it because they didn't want to waste it..... that's my take.
 
This is from somebody who was dead wrong about how apps are moved and deleted and numerous other stuff on previous posts in this thread. Then claims he has an iPhone but now only a touch. But I'm the one not to believe. :hehehe:

I relpy fully when I get home.
 
Word, I would definitely prefer a very nice optical trackpad over a rolly ball...mainly because I hate the rolly ball for mechanical reasons.
 
Damn me and my Typos. :hehehe:

Wouldn't even need a hard drive then.
















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Battery life last me all day with 30% left from 6am to 10pm. Exchange Push on, Synch on, Gchat on and I browse the internet about 2 hours a day on it at least. Maybe an hour of phone calls...yeah I would say battery life is good.

Google Voice is an App on android, no need to SMS or email a message. Its built in with instant notification. We have options of using GV for all calls, no calls, ask before each call or international calls only. All done with a simple widget you can put on the one of your homescreens or through the app itself. Thats seamless implemation.

Speaking of widgets, we always been able to have shortcuts on our homescreen for direct dial of contacts, websites and apps. Now Apple today is trying to patent a homescreen icon for contact calling?? http://www.tuaw.com/2010/01/14/apple-gets-one-upped-on-homescreen-contact-patent/

Looks like they're trying to make their homescreen a "little" more fuctional.
 
I was seriously considering switching to the Nexus1. The only reason I didn't was because the 32 gb micro cards aren't available yet. I have 20 gb worth stuff on my iphone, thats 4 gb more than what current micro sd cards have room for. Other than this little quibble I was gonna jump on the Nexus1 bandwagon in a heart beat.
Also, ya'll should consider another major problem with the android platform as a whole. Without the ability to save apps to the card you're forced to save to the sparse rom memory. But the bigger issue there is that this squeeze on room takes away a lot of the incentive for developers to write bigger more intensive apps.
These two issues where the only real problems I see with Android. Had 32 gb of space been available I totally would of got the Nexus1 though. I interested in seeing what Mr. Jobs had in store for us this summer too. He'd better wow me cause after 2 years with an iPhone it's getting stale.
 
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