Alien 3 script

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This is a copy of the script for Alien 3 that wasnt used. :D

Enjoy :)

(I havent read it all :D)

http://www.pointlesswasteoftime.com/film/alien3script.html
 
Talking of Alien, I bought Alien and Aliens, are Alien 3 or Resurrection worth getting? I really enjoyed the first 2 and I would like peoples opinions. I could have spent an extra
 
Alien Resurrection is disappointing, to say the least, but as Fizzbin says the director's cut of Alien 2 is far far superior to the cinema release. It's definitely worth it :)
 
I know I probably should have, but I felt that as it worked out cheaper just to buy the ones I wanted on their own, I went that route

I don't really think Alien Resurrection is worth it, but I might get Alien 3, unless people who have seen it aren't overly keen
 
Good alternative script (although I've only glanced over it, first read).

The worst mistake they made with the version of "Alien 3" that ended up being filmed was killing off Hicks and Newt off-screen before the opening credits had even rolled. That was a disastrous decision, and whoever had the idea deserves to be carted off to a penal planet for a very long stretch.

Hicks was a good strong character and should have been kept on, and Newt - although she was an annoying brat - had the potential to have developed (as an adult) into another strong character for the franchise.

Personally I prefer to pretend that A3 never happened and to skip straight ahead to "Resurrection", which - though not in the same class as "Alien" and "Aliens" - isn't as bad as many people make it out to be, IMHO.
 
For anyone with an interest in the "Alien" franchise, I can really recommend a book called "Dissecting ALIENS - Terror In Space" by John L. Flynn, which covers in great detail the making of the first three movies (it was published in 1995) and includes - among other fascinating stuff - summaries of various alternate screenplays (including the Gibson one that's the subject of this thread), all sorts of background info on the three movies, a chapter on the 'Dark Horse' comics Aliens stories etc. etc.

The publisher was 'Boxtree'. I bought my own copy around the time it came out. Not sure if it's still in print (it's probably not), but a second-hand copy is worth tracking down.
 
Just read the entire screenplay, and I think I prefer the original Alien 3 to that. I think the old version had too many 'Alien Resurretion' style themes in it and suddenly we are introduced into whole new ways that the Alien can breed, such as releasing a gas that if breathed in makes you turn into an Alien. Seems like a very rushed idea and a rather silly one to me. Also, if you get bitten it automatically puts several ebryos into your body at certain points? Seems very incredible indeed.

Also, there is another version of the script out there where Ripley lanRAB on a planet inhabited by monks instead of prisoners. I wonder if anyone has read it yet. It has similar themes to this script where the Alien can grow at full size inside the human host instead of there being an embryo in the chest. The Alien then emerges from inside the human by ripping its entire skin and head off. Very grewsome for the screen and very different from what we saw in Aliens. I don't get how they can introduce all these new ideas without any sort of hint from the previous movies, (apart from a deleted scene in the original Alien where the hosts transform into eggs).

I prefer the Alien 3 we got, with the 30 minutes of deleted footage. Now, if only Ripley didn't kill herself at the end of Alien 3, Alien 4 could have been a very interesting film indeed...

Paddy :D
 
I will hold back on the last two Alien films, I seem to be getting very conflicting information from both this and the other thread running

Some people like the last 2, others hate them both, and the rest prefer one or the other

I think I will watch them on TV the next time they're on and buy the ones I like (if I like them enough)

It's like with the Matrix. I bought the first one, and although I like it a lot, it can feel slightly shallow in places. I so wanted to like the 2 sequels but couldn't bring myself to, the same with the Jaws films, first one fantastic, the rest went downhill

At the end of the day, it is like showing the same film and releasing it is a sequel, but with alterations in certain sequences and plotlines, just to keep the story slightly fresh and different, but in it's heart, it can't escape being too similar to its predecessors

This is not always a bad thing, and when there are different directors for the sequel, they want to interpret the ideas from their perspective

This could lead to a question, when making a sequel, would you prefer a different director or the same one?
 
When making a sequel, I would prefer to have the same director for both movies. The original director established the look and feel of the movie so any other director would bring in their ideas and change what had been established in the first. This is something that annoys many people about sequels, and is why many ofthem are absolutely crap.

In regarRAB to Alien 3/Resurrection. You can buy the 9 disc box set in Woolworths now for
 
I love Alien, and I LOVE Aliens. IMHO the last 2 were poo! Especially Alien 4.

With regarRAB to the Directors I thought James Cameron did a birilliant job of doing the seqel to Alien. Just wish he would have been in charge of 3 + 4.

And as Flat_Eric says, they should not have killed off Hicks in 3, there was no big romance between them, just an inkling .. so there would not have been the problem of putting that into the film. Plus he's eye candy :D
 
Alien 3 is a surprisingly under-rated film.

Judging by the majority of the comments, I think that most people just don't "get" it, or were expecting something else.

Hicks and Newt had to be killed off - he was incapacitated anyway, and she served no further useful purpose because we'd already had one film of Ripley's maternal instincts and two would be overkill. Plus, the dichotomy of the funeral scene playing intercut with the chestburster scene is one of the greatest pieces of cinema I've ever seen.

What's so endearing about Alien 3 for me is that it's a step back towarRAB the ethos of the original Alien - one alien, the suspense of not knowing who's going to die next, and the hopelessness of the human cause in the face of such a brutal killing machine.

Add to that Fincher's talent for powerful cinematography and the underlying messages about life, death and redemption and Alien 3 becomes a true gem.

Sure, it's not an all action blast-fest like Aliens, but neither is it a special-effects laden, plot devoid nightmare like Resurrection ;)

(Avoid Resurrection like the plague, btw - it's awful).
 
You make a very valid point that the overall "look" of "Alien 3" is pretty good.

But I disagree strongly that Hicks & Newt "had to" be killed off.

Why???!!!

First off, Hicks wasn't so badly injured that he couldn't have recovered. If I'd had to pick one of the two characters to kill off it would have been Newt, no question. But even that character could have been developed (I read somewhere that an early proposal for "Alien 4" from around the same time as when "Alien 3" was in the pipeline had "4" set on Earth years later, with Newt facing her demons as an adult). Plus, killing them both off - for me and many others I think - made all that they'd been through in "Aliens" kind of - well - 'pointless' I suppose (for want of a better word).

You say that "Alien 3" had the "suspense" of us not knowing who was going to die next. But did we really care??!! With the exception of Charles Dutton's character Dylan, the Doctor (Charles Dance) and the Warden (Brian Glover - IMHO a less than inspired piece of casting that had me expecting the Tetley Tea Folk to pop up at any minute), none of the other characters was developed to any meaningful degree. Most were just shaven-headed clones of each other and were given little to do apart from serve as Alien-fodder.

It's a bit patronising (insulting even) to say that "most people" don't "get" the movie just because they complain about two key characters being killed off-screen right at the very beginning. I think that the film's message about "life, death and redemption" is probably quite clear to "most people".

You're right in saying that in some ways "Alien 3" did return to the ethos of the original film. But it could still have done that and at the same time could have been much less of a disappointment than the movie that got made.
 
To the most part, I completely agree Flat_Eric, although I personally "still" HATE Alien 3 with an absolute passion and would suggest to mattyl149...

"If you LOVED Aliens... DON'T watch Alien 3! Or Resurrection! It's even WORSE then 3!" :( :sleep:
 
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